Mobo or cpu problem?(warning: very abnormal)

Discussion in 'Motherboards' started by BlueDogAnchorite, Nov 18, 2017.

  1. BlueDogAnchorite

    BlueDogAnchorite Member

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    The memory, the hard drives the graphics cards and the monitors are all working quite fine. I'm running Windows 7 Ultimate, on a 2500k CPU a GTX 960 and a crappy motherboard that had very poor overclocking options.

    Ok I've been having serious problems with this build, pretty much since I first set it up years ago. At first the problem was that the Nvidia driver kept failing my screen Would blank and it would recover, the problem got gradually worse until I had to reset the system to view anything, then I started getting blue screens of death and I'd have to reinstall Windows.

    I messed around with graphics cards and various other things, ultimately I couldn't figure out what the hell was going on it, seemed extremely illogical.

    The system would work with my old card which made me think uh obviously my current graphics card is the problem. This turned out to be completely incorrect.

    There was a time when my supposedly faulty card was still in the system, it wasn't booting well there was no image on the monitor at least and I had left my computer off for several days. I tried turning it on again one day and the system booted up completely normally as if there had been absolutely no problem.

    I obviously still kept having problems though and in the end I applied a Microsoft Fix-It which it changed the timeout period so the an error wasn't being reported or something, I can't really remember what it did actually, but that helped.

    When cruising the Internet whenever, well most of the time, when adverts started playing on web pages my screen would turn off for a second then turn back on it got gradually worse so that when I was viewing for example the Independent newspaper web page it was turning off multiple times a minute.

    I have a new installation on a new hard drive and didn't bother applying the Microsoft fix it yet which may have changed things. The current problem is that the computer either completely freezes or it was operating fine and the next time I turn it on my monitor doesnt display anything.

    The monitor in fact was glitching in and out after I changed the HDMI cable it was connected to and when I change the port it was connected to from the motherboard port to the graphics card port.

    I disconnected my monitor and connected my projector and immediately I could see Windows starting up, this happened the past two times I had a problem and had to reinstall. Windows would not load up however, it would hang on the logo, using the projector I was able to get into Safe Mode while my monitor would barely display anything. In safe mode I had no audio service running and couldn't do that much. But both times after I reinstalled windows my monitor would start working absolutely perfectly from the start.

    The last error I got before the second crash which made me reinstall Windows again, was an attempt to execute an illegal instruction, which was a new one for me!

    So is this more likely a cpu or mobo issue?
    Thanks.
     
  2. lincsman

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    Hi there, thankfully I have the experience and knowledge to at least say something. However much it will help you, not sure, but this is what you need to do to fix the problem.
    You literally need to test EVERYTHING. Sounds like you've tested a lot. My thinking is, it's either the motherboard (which you said is poor) or the power supply. What I did when I tested my new build (problem was the video card) is I borrowed a power supply from a friend, hooked it all up, and ran it. It worked, so I put my old one back in and found out that wasn't the problem.
    Also if it's a build I would make sure your power supply is strong enough. With a 970 and you didn't say if it's an I5 or I7, but either way you should be running that on I'd say 550W for sure or 600W at least. If it's not that, it might be the motherboard. If it's not a suitable motherboard or if something overheated on it, then that's the problem. If you overclocked the CPU and it overheated or was pushed to hard, it could be damaged.

    In reality, the best thing would be to take it to a shop and get the system tested (if you have a good enough power supply). The process of testing every part on your own would take a lot of time and energy, and maybe money. What if you buy a new motherboard, or PSU, and then find out that's not the problem? So, unfortunately unless you are prepared to test every component of the system, I'd say just take it to a repair shop.
     
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  3. BlueDogAnchorite

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    microsoft fix it 50848
     
  4. BlueDogAnchorite

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    i think ill try one more installation of windows first.
    im currently running on my old hardrive where i used the microsoft fixit, so maybe that really did save me.

    "Timeout Detection and Recovery is a Windows feature that can detect when the video adapter hardware or a driver on your computer has taken longer than expected to complete an operation. When this occurs, Windows attempts to recover and reset the graphics hardware. If the GPU is unable to recover and reset the graphics hardware in the time permitted (two seconds), your system may become unresponsive, and display the error message “Display driver stopped responding and has recovered.”"

    so its the motherboard at fault probably if its not the gpu?
     
  5. BlueDogAnchorite

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    Yep it worked! what component is to blame though? I shouldnt have to change timeout detection to 10 seconds :/ (default is 2)
     
  6. lincsman

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    well, look at that I learned something, glad it worked. Like I said though, you need to test the whole system to know what hardware is to blame.
     

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