More FSB or more GHz ?

Hey should I pay $10 more and get the one with the Heatsink and Fan included ?
The other one is the exact same one but OEM & without a cooling device.

Will that stock Cooling device be enough ? I'm not a gamer...

Let me know, ty
 
LE0O37 said:
Hey should I pay $10 more and get the one with the Heatsink and Fan included ?
The other one is the exact same one but OEM & without a cooling device.

Will that stock Cooling device be enough ? I'm not a gamer...

Let me know, ty
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Yes, stock cooling will be fine.
 
LE0O37 said:
Hey should I pay $10 more and get the one with the Heatsink and Fan included ?
The other one is the exact same one but OEM & without a cooling device.

Will that stock Cooling device be enough ? I'm not a gamer...

Let me know, ty
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If you're going to buy an aftermarket cooler, then theres no point in buying the retail version. But if you arent going to, then get the retail.
 
CPU101 said:
Cache
Cache is essentially, a chunk of very high speed memory available exclusively to the processor for storing very commonly accessed data. When the CPU is looking for an instruction/data and it is found in the cache, that is known as a cache hit. There are several types of cache:

* L1 Data and L1 Trace (collectively known as L1), this type of cache is usually quite small (small on AMD processors and tiny on Intel) and is the first place the CPU looks for information. Due to its small size and the variance of instructions/data available, cache hits in L1 are not a performance bottleneck
* L2 cache is the most marketed cache and is big enough to actually influence the performance of the processor with budget processors cheaping out on the amount of L2 cache available. Although "the more L2 cache available, the better", also note that the more cache they cram onto a processor, the slower and less efficient it becomes and the more the cache becomes dependent on optimizations designed to improve cache hits
* L3 cache is essentially, another type of L2 (but slower still) and is reserved for storing a (relative) whack of data somewhat close to the CPU. L3 cache was available only on select models of the Intel Pentium4 Extreme Edition and has since been discontinued in favor of a larger L2 cache.
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Did you read CPU101?
 
My Pick !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After alot of research on building a DUAL CORE Budget PC...........
THIS is my PICK and what I came up with so far.
Please make any suggestions on changes within the same price......
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CPU $69.

AMD Athlon 64 X2 3600+ Brisbane 1.9GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor - Retail
Specs
Brand AMD
Processors Type Desktop
Series Athlon 64 X2
Model ADO3600DDBOX
CPU Socket Type
CPU Socket Type Socket AM2
Tech Spec
Core Brisbane
Multi-Core Dual-Core
Name Athlon 64 X2 3600+
Operating Frequency 1.9GHz
HT 2000MHz
L1 Cache 128KB+128KB
L2 Cache 2 x 512KB
Manufacturing Tech 65 nm
64 bit Support Yes
Hyper-Transport Support Yes
Virtualization Technology Support Yes
Multimedia Instruction MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, 3DNOW! Professional
Voltage 1.25/1.35V
Cooling Device Heatsink and Fan included
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MOBO $44.

Foxconn MCP61VM2MA-RS2H Socket AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Specs
Brand Foxconn
Model MCP61VM2MA-RS2H
Supported CPU
CPU Socket Type Socket AM2
CPU Type Athlon 64 X2 / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64
FSB 1000MHz Hyper Transport (2000 MT/s)
Chipsets
North Bridge NVIDIA GeForce 6100
Memory
Number of Memory Slots 4×240pin
Memory Standard DDR2 800
Maximum Memory Supported 4GB
Dual Channel Supported Yes
Expansion Slots
AGP Slots None
PCI Express x16 1x PCI Express x16 (signals at x1)
PCI Express x1 1
PCI Slots 2
Storage Devices
PATA 1 x ATA100 up to 2 Devices
SATA 3Gb/s 2
SATA RAID 0/1
Onboard Video
Onboard Video Chipset NVIDIA GeForce 6100
Onboard Audio
Audio Chipset Realtek ALC861
Audio Channels 6 Channels
Onboard LAN
LAN Chipset Realtek PHY
Max LAN Speed 10/100Mbps
Rear Panel Ports
PS/2 2
COM 1
LPT 1
Video Ports D-Sub
USB 4 x USB 2.0
Audio Ports 3 Ports
Onboard USB
Onboard USB 2 x USB 2.0 headers support 4 ports
Physical Spec
Form Factor Micro ATX
Dimensions 9.6" x 9.6"
Features
Power Pin 24 Pin
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BRB w/ the Memmory Pick.
 
Thats a decent combo, if your on a tight budget. It should perform pretty well, giving you also have enough RAM and other components.
 
Which RAM should I pick, you see my CPU and MOBO above ?

GSkill DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Cas Latency 5 Timing 5-5-5-15 $86
A-Data DDR2 800(PC2 6400) Cas Latency 5 Timing 5-5-5-18 $86
WINTEC AMPX DDR2 800(PC2 6400) Cas Latency 5 Timing 5-5-5-15 $86
OCZ DDR2 800(PC2 6400) Cas Latency 4 Timing 4-4-4-15 $90
XMS DDR2 800(PC2 6400) Cas Latency 5 Timing 5-5-5-12 $93

Now these below are slightly different and cheaper

WINTEC DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Cas Latency 5 Timing not listed $63
Corsair ValueSelect DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Cas Latency 5 Timing not listed $70
Super Talent DDR2 667 (PC2 5400) Cas Latency 5 Timing not listed $81

Is there a big difference from 667 to 800 ?
Is there a big difference from PC2 5300 to 6400 ?

What is a better timing,a lower number like 4-4-4-15 is better than 5-5-5-15?
Does it really make a difference ?

Let me know, with this I will Decide
THANKS
 
Cache is essentially, a chunk of very high speed memory available exclusively to the processor for storing very commonly accessed data. When the CPU is looking for an instruction/data and it is found in the cache, that is known as a cache hit. There are several types of cache:

Thats a quote from the CPU101. For the person who said i was wrong about what L2 I wasn't Really that wrong when i mentions instructions... in a way we were both right Just had to point that out :)
 
The A DATA is now $81.

Here are some better deals on DDR2 800 PC2 6400 RAM I have found...

Pariot------------------------2x1GB $81
GeIL--------------------------2x1GB $72
OCZ Gold----------------------2x1GB $77
Pariot Exterme Performance-----2x1GB $82

What do you think, which one from these 4 do I pick.......
 
some more to pick from

PNY 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model D22GX53OPT - Retail $60

Transcend JETRAM 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model JM2GDDR2-8K - Retail $69
 
It is between these 2....PICK ONE

Is Transcend JETRAM a good brand ?
Its the cheapest I found,

OCZ Gold----------------------2x1GB $77
Transcend JETRAM-------------2x1GB $69

Should I really spend extra money on buying the OCZ ?

Model
Brand Transcend
Series JETRAM
Model JM2GDDR2-8K
Type 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM
Tech Spec
Capacity 2GB (2 x 1GB)
Speed DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
Cas Latency 5
Timing 5-5-5-12
Heat Spreader No
Manufacturer Warranty

or

Model
Brand OCZ
Series Gold
Model OCZ2G8002GK
Type 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM
Tech Spec
Capacity 2GB (2 x 1GB)
Speed DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
Cas Latency 5
Timing 5-5-5-12
Voltage 2.1V
Heat Spreader Yes
Features Gold Layered XTC Heatspreader
Recommend Use High Performance or Gaming Memory
 
Encoding and burning dvds.
Recording music.
Surfing the internet.
And may be some downloading.
Nothing major
 
Thanks guys, I got the OCZ, it was clearly the best choice.
Thanks to the Mail in Rebate I'll get it at $77 w/ shipping and AR.
Thanks for helping.

I will not buy the Foxconn Mobo though.
I am looking into MSI or GIGABYTE.

I need help chosing one though.
thanks
 
Now I need a PSU
Will this be enough to power my unit
Let me know

COOLMAX V-400 ATX v2.01 400W Power Supply - Retail $16

Dual +12V: Yes
Fans: 1 x 80mm Fan
Input Frequency Range: 47 - 63 Hz
Input Voltage: 100~132VAC or 200~264VAC
Main Connector: 20+4Pin
Output: +3.3V@30A, +5V@28A, +12V1@14A, +12V2@15A, -12V@1A, [email protected]
Over Voltage Protection: Yes
Overload Protection: Yes
PCI-E Connectors: No
PFC: No
 
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