My agp card

MattN

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well im 14 and i didnt have the money for a new computer. so i decided to buy new parts. i bought a raedon 4650 amazon link ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0..._m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0QJAVQ12BQ1TDRYAHBEH ) well anyway this is the problem i can play left for dead 2 on all high settings at 19 to about 30 fps. but when i turn everything on low i get about a 5 fps increase on a low resolution. here is my specs
dual proccesors (one core) xeon 3.06 GHZ
ddr1 ram at about i think 200 mhz
primary drive 7200 rpm 80 gb ide
secondary 5400 rpm ide 80 gb
anyway what is going on if u wanna help that would be sweet.
 
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What resolution are you playing at? If you're finding your FPS are too low then you can try lowering your resolution in the game and turn off or lower your anti-aliasing and should see your FPS rise. The Radeon 4650 is probably one of the better AGP cards out there, but it's still kind of weak so you cannot play the games at highest resolutions with the AA turned up. If you want to upgrade your graphics card to a better AGP one you can try looking for a Radeon 3850 AGP, that will probably perform better than the 4670, but these are probably going to be pretty expensive. You'd probably be best off saving up and just building a whole new PC, not sure how much money you want to spend though, if you want to spend any at all.
 
What resolution are you playing at? If you're finding your FPS are too low then you can try lowering your resolution in the game and turn off or lower your anti-aliasing and should see your FPS rise. The Radeon 4650 is probably one of the better AGP cards out there, but it's still kind of weak so you cannot play the games at highest resolutions with the AA turned up. If you want to upgrade your graphics card to a better AGP one you can try looking for a Radeon 3850 AGP, that will probably perform better than the 4670, but these are probably going to be pretty expensive. You'd probably be best off saving up and just building a whole new PC, not sure how much money you want to spend though, if you want to spend any at all.

im trying to look for a prebuilt dell or like an hp desktop with an ok processor and upgrade the power supply and graphics card but i cant find like a computer like that for like 250. i know how to build a computer but im afraid i might mess up on something small.
 
MattN said:
i know how to build a computer but im afraid i might mess up on something small.
So long as you remain grounded and static-free whilst building the PC and handling the components, you'll be fine. Don't go for a PC from Dell or HP for gaming, they don't have performance boards and tend to use the lower-end CPUs in their cheaper systems, you'll just be better off doing it yourself. Plus when you install Windows you won't have all the preinstalled crap these OEMs like to install.
 
So long as you remain grounded and static-free whilst building the PC and handling the components, you'll be fine. Don't go for a PC from Dell or HP for gaming, they don't have performance boards and tend to use the lower-end CPUs in their cheaper systems, you'll just be better off doing it yourself. Plus when you install Windows you won't have all the preinstalled crap these OEMs like to install.
yeah whats the cheapest budget you think i can go with a intergrated graphics and maybe a quad core and no cd/dvd drives? i could just use a usb cd drive to boot windows /linux setup
 
You don't want to be using integrated graphics for games my friend. Here's a box I configured as per your spec.

CPU Intel Core i5 2300 $179.99 (I'd recommend spending the extra on the 2500K if you want to overclock though)
Board ASUS P8Z68-V $119.99
RAM 8GB RipJaws DDR3 1333MHz 2x4GB $49.99
Graphics Radeon 6870 1GB $164.99
Hard Drive Corsair Force 3 120GB SSD $159.99 (more expensive and smaller than a hard drive but much faster and probably worth the money)
Power Supply OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W Modular $74.99
Case LiteOn DVD-RW $17.99 (as it's only $17.99 you may as well buy one for convenience in the future]
OS Windows 7 Home Prem. SP1 x64 $99.99

Total $867.92

Don't be put off by the price, there are going to be cheaper options, for example you could use the i3 2120 which is a dual-core CPU and save $100 there, in games I doubt you'd notice the difference between the 2120 and the 2300. You could get rid off the SSD and buy a HDD instead and save about $60 there too, but the SSD might be nice to have for the future (a 500GB HDD looks to be about $90, see here). If you're going for a dual-core CPU, a 600W PSU may be overkill, you could save about $10-20 and buy a 500W OCZ PSU instead if you wanted. This is why building your own PCs is so good, you can configure everything exactly how you want it to be.

I would not recommend cheaping out on a power supply (get a good brand, Corsair, Seasonic, OCZ, Antec, etc) or motherboard (again, get a good brand, ASUS, Gigabyte, ASRock, MSI).
 
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You don't want to be using integrated graphics for games my friend. Here's a box I configured as per your spec.

CPU Intel Core i5 2300 $179.99 (I'd recommend spending the extra on the 2500K if you want to overclock though)
Board ASUS P8Z68-V $119.99
RAM 8GB RipJaws DDR3 1333MHz 2x4GB $49.99
Graphics Radeon 6870 1GB $164.99
Hard Drive Corsair Force 3 120GB SSD $159.99 (more expensive and smaller than a hard drive but much faster and probably worth the money)
Power Supply OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W Modular $74.99
Case LiteOn DVD-RW $17.99 (as it's only $17.99 you may as well buy one for convenience in the future]
OS Windows 7 Home Prem. SP1 x64 $99.99

Total $867.92

Don't be put off by the price, there are going to be cheaper options, for example you could use the i3 2120 which is a dual-core CPU and save $100 there, in games I doubt you'd notice the difference between the 2120 and the 2300. You could get rid off the SSD and buy a HDD instead and save about $60 there too, but the SSD might be nice to have for the future (a 500GB HDD looks to be about $90, see here). If you're going for a dual-core CPU, a 600W PSU may be overkill, you could save about $10-20 and buy a 500W OCZ PSU instead if you wanted. This is why building your own PCs is so good, you can configure everything exactly how you want it to be.

I would not recommend cheaping out on a power supply (get a good brand, Corsair, Seasonic, OCZ, Antec, etc) or motherboard (again, get a good brand, ASUS, Gigabyte, ASRock, MSI).



dude i wish im 14 i ant got no cash lol but when i get my job in a few years i could image myself blowing like 5000 dollers on a beast of a machine lol but i wanted to see if i could use like a cheapie amd cpu maybe a ok intergrated card in the MOBO or maybe a dedicated card there pretty cheap. i would be fine with anything like that because you can optimize windows so it runs amazingly
i think all the visuals are garbage anyway.
anybody that can put together a cheap under 350 shopping list for ok parts i would truly thank them haha
 
MattN said:
dude i wish im 14 i ant got no cash lol
Yeah I'm 14 as well, I actually built my machine when I was 13. I got the machine by saving up, I saved up for about a year and got all the money that why. I don't have a job yet either.

MattN said:
i get my job in a few years i could image myself blowing like 5000 dollers on a beast of a machine lol
$5000 on a PC is just insane. :D I could configure one for that price and it would have everything apart from perhaps maybe the kitchen sink. Nobody needs to spend that much. :)

MattN said:
i think all the visuals are garbage anyway.
You can use the integrated graphics on a new CPU and motherboard but you're probably not going to get any more FPS than you already do on your current 4650. To get decent FPS, you need a decent graphics card.

MattN said:
anybody that can put together a cheap under 350 shopping list for ok parts i would truly thank them haha
You're going to be very hard-pushed to build/buy a gaming PC on $350. You could try looking second hand on eBay perhaps? You can usually pick up 2-3 year old machines with Core 2 Quads and GTX 260s for about your price if you're lucky. The GTX 260 isn't a terribly strong card today, and nor are any of the GTX 2xx series apart from perhaps the 280, 285 and 295, but you can always upgrade the card later. A Core 2 Quad, be it one of the original Q6xxx chips or one of the later Q8xxx or Q9xxx chips will do you just fine. Even a Core 2 Duo E8400 would still be good. Keep your eyes peeled and you may just get lucky.
 
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