My Laptop can't exceed 16GB RAM How can I Boost it ?

Discussion in 'Laptops, Tablets and Smartphones' started by jo86, Mar 3, 2019.

  1. jo86

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    Hey guys. I got this ASUS laptop about a year ago and it had an SSD drive, i7 processor, and 16GB RAM, so I thought perfect there won't be any need to add anything to that.

    Recently I've been doing some really heavy tasks on it and not that it's been struggling but I do wish it could be even faster. I had a close look, contacted some people, and I officially can't add more RAM's to it. The Readyboost USB/external RAM thing won't work (my PC says nothing I can add will improve performance, it's already at max).

    What would it take to make my pc compatible with more RAM, change the entire motherboard ? Is there any other method, trick, quick fix to make it faster/more powerful ? Thanking you.
     
  2. aldan

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    there are no tricks or quick fixes for that other than a new more powerful computer.just curious tho,what tasks are you doing to make this machine struggle? post specs as well.
     
  3. OmniDyne

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    Post the specifications of your laptop, please.
     
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  4. jo86

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    Specs added in signature.

    Music production. In order to load up realistic sounds (for actual, real samples of a harp, drums, or guitar) I need to sometimes load up sound libraries that are between 15 and 30GB. When I'm towards the end of a project, with tons of modules and instruments and data loaded up, it tends to go slow or even freeze (just too much going on). Having 24GB (and then 32) rather than 16 would've been fantastic.

    Strangely enough: my friend has an ASUS as well, and his is an i5 processor, but somehow his can take up to 32GB, while mine is an i7 (supposedly more powerful/capable ?) and can't.
     
  5. aldan

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    your gonna need a more powerful laptop for that work.again tho there is nothing you can do about your laptops ram capacity.
     
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  6. TheRealSwede

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    Have you tryed to shift to a fixed pagefile (same initial size as maximum size), and begin testing it with lets say 5GB (5120mb)
    If that is not enough Try setting it to 8Gb (8192Mb) end try to lets say 16GB (16384Mb), 32Gb etc. to se what size works best..
     
  7. TheRealSwede

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    I think that is due to restrictions in the motherboard and the circuits that it carries..
     
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  8. jo86

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    I'm sorry I don't understand !
     
  9. diypartsjoy

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    You can’t. The only option would be to get a new laptop. You can set a page file size, but boy is that slow.
     
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  10. aldan

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    this is terrible advice.do you even know how a pagefile works.its slowwww.if this is indeed a ram problem the solution is a new laptop with more ram capability.ive seen more than enough of your replies blowing smoke up posters [email protected]@@s.
     
  11. jo86

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    I'm only now reading about this page file size. Had never heard of it.
    Oh I see:

    I might have a try at that. It's really a damn shame you can't add like a USB drive for more RAM, well you can but not in my case for e.g. If you could just buy an external RAM, connect to your PC before a dense task..
     
  12. diypartsjoy

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    The USB interface isn't as fast as RAM is. "External RAM" would not be possible.
     
  13. beers

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    More ram itself doesn't make anything faster unless you don't have enough.

    There's some 32g ddr3 sodimm kits but it's not worth the cost for what you're doing.
     
  14. TheRealSwede

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    Well since you open very large files you will get inactive data loaded to memory, And the memory manager is responsible to move inactive data from RAM to the page file.. But since our files are large, and thus you might get much inactive data in RAM, I thought that you might gain some benefit from setting your page file to a larger FIXED pagefile. (The windows-standard always creates a small page file that Windows makes larger when needed. The only drawback is that the enlargement of a pagefile consumes a lot of processingpower..) Thats why a fixed pagefile (of a correct size) migth free up both RAM and processortime..
     
  15. jo86

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    thanks for that, it half makes sense to me now. :D

    The guy in the video I posted says the pagefile thing is pretty unstable as many programs won't even run and that sort of thing, but that if you do it on a separate drive then it works better. Does that make sense ?
     
  16. Darren

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    New laptop, the 7500U is a lower power consumption chip anyway and not really designed for sustatined heavy workloads. Even if it is an i7.

    You're just going to waste your time jacking with the page file. Windows handles it on its own and it likely won't help at all. Your CPU will slow you down as much as anything.
     
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  17. TheRealSwede

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    With all respect, that is your opinion... Please let the one with the trouble try out for him self..
    He can change his pagefile to a fixed one, but he can not change his CPU...
     
  18. _Kyle_

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    But it's genuinely helpful advice...
     
  19. Darren

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    Or rather not waste his time because I'm experienced with what I"m talking about? Why come to a forum for expert opinion if you're just going to tell them "figure it out for himself". I'm not in any way attempting to be rude but after a few years in this industry you can't be afraid to tell people they need new hardware to run what they want to do.

    He wants to do heavy audio work. He need a powerful computer to do what he's after. If he feels his current laptop isn't up to it then that's a result of a low power consumption CPU and capped RAM. If he doesn't want to spend money then that's fine. Messing with the page file is a waste of time, modern Windows is pretty damn smart with RAM and trying to park assets you'd usually have in RAM on slow hard storage isn't going to help for this workload.
     
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  20. jo86

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    Is it possible theoretically to buy a new processor then ? (like is the swap operation simple ?). I figure you'll tell me it's best to just buy a new computer then, but a really good processor here would be about 500€, still better than a computer (although I'd sell my current one obviously...). Eh. Can't be screwed to start all over again, reinstalling all the software etc...
     

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