Need a MS OS to replace Vista on 64 bit computer, but can’t decide on 7 or 10

I've had a hell of a time with HDD computers. Especially boot up time. Windows 10 boots like a cheetah on steroid with an SSD though.

Remember when you could right click on taskbar then immediately left click the close button? Yeah, doesn't work like that in 10.
Remember when calculator opened up like the split second you clicked on it?
How about when browsing in a .zip file in explorer didn't act like it was stuck in molasses?

There's tons of stuff like that just shouldn't have delays. I realize that those examples are not SSD/HDD based, but all these little things add up to a slow experience.
 
speedyink said:
I've had a hell of a time with HDD computers. Especially boot up time. Windows 10 boots like a cheetah on steroid with an SSD though.

Remember when you could right click on taskbar then immediately left click the close button? Yeah, doesn't work like that in 10.
Remember when calculator opened up like the split second you clicked on it?
How about when browsing in a .zip file in explorer didn't act like it was stuck in molasses?

There's tons of stuff like that just shouldn't have delays. I realize that those examples are not SSD/HDD based, but all these little things add up to a slow experience.
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No offense meant, but this sounds more like an issue with your install of 10. I've never had these issues on clean installations of Windows, regardless of platform really.
 
I spent days trying to get rid of Cortana, but it keeps coming back like a virus or something. All I can do is turn it off from view.

I still haven’t installed my new Win 10 yet although I’ve had it for a couple of weeks. I’m still trying to backup all my files and convert some that will not work in Win 10. I discovered that the new windows Onenote will not let me open all my old Onenote files so I have to convert all my files to PDF using MS Office '97 before I lose everything. I don’t know what’s going on with MS these days and suspect they are getting overly greedy and don't want you using anything that you've already paid for and I’m very upset about it.

I've gotten a little side tracked with looking for a new Laptop and thinking about just keeping my Vista running for a while while I get it all sorted out. Its kind of weird because as soon as I order a new OS the old one start running great. The only thing that doesn't work is Google Chrome, but I still have Firefox.
 
Darren said:
No offense meant, but this sounds more like an issue with your install of 10. I've never had these issues on clean installations of Windows, regardless of platform really.
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There is no way you are not getting this, seriously, try it. Right click an open application on your taskbar, and look hard at how long it takes the popup to appear, where you can then choose close. If it's anything less than perceivably instant than it's slower than Windows 7 used to be. I remember this being a very quick way to close a bunch of software, whereas this is a much longer process now, even on my 8 core computer. This isn't limited to one computer either, this is at least 6 computers that I've used. Yeah there's parts of the OS that are snappy, to be sure, but there are just stupid little things where my 800mhz laptop using Windows 7 is faster than my 8 core desktop using 10. Calculator is another(yes, I use calc.exe...at work). This is limited to the new windows 10 version, the old version is still instant. But they bury the old one, and when you search for calc, only the new one shows up, they don't even show the old app. Nope, there's just the new calculator as the "best app" or whatever, and a whole big chunk of useless white space. It's these little things just downgrade my experience. That and the horrible stability the upgrade program caused. And the lack legacy application support. I dunno, I've just had a terrible time, even though I went in wanting to like it. I even liked Windows 8, that's how dedicated Windows I am.
 
None of the problems you're describing is something I have experienced on my laptop before and/or after an SSD upgrade. This is however, based off of a fresh install of Windows 10 and not through an upgrade from Win 7.
 
speedyink said:
There is no way you are not getting this, seriously, try it. Right click an open application on your taskbar, and look hard at how long it takes the popup to appear, where you can then choose close. If it's anything less than perceivably instant than it's slower than Windows 7 used to be. I remember this being a very quick way to close a bunch of software, whereas this is a much longer process now, even on my 8 core computer. This isn't limited to one computer either, this is at least 6 computers that I've used. Yeah there's parts of the OS that are snappy, to be sure, but there are just stupid little things where my 800mhz laptop using Windows 7 is faster than my 8 core desktop using 10. Calculator is another(yes, I use calc.exe...at work). This is limited to the new windows 10 version, the old version is still instant. But they bury the old one, and when you search for calc, only the new one shows up, they don't even show the old app. Nope, there's just the new calculator as the "best app" or whatever, and a whole big chunk of useless white space. It's these little things just downgrade my experience. That and the horrible stability the upgrade program caused. And the lack legacy application support. I dunno, I've just had a terrible time, even though I went in wanting to like it. I even liked Windows 8, that's how dedicated Windows I am.
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I dunno man. I've experienced a wide range of computers on Windows 7 vs 10. From a crappy 10 year old Toshiba to my gaming rig. In nearly every instance 10 runs better than 7, even on upgrades. My job is a computer repair shop and I see it on a variety of machines. Usually issues with 10 present themselves as driver issues or permission issues, general speed favors Windows 10 every time.

Your mileage of course varies, but I honest to God think W10 is the best OS MS has ever made.
 
Darren said:
I dunno man. I've experienced a wide range of computers on Windows 7 vs 10. From a crappy 10 year old Toshiba to my gaming rig. In nearly every instance 10 runs better than 7, even on upgrades. My job is a computer repair shop and I see it on a variety of machines. Usually issues with 10 present themselves as driver issues or permission issues, general speed favors Windows 10 every time.

Your mileage of course varies, but I honest to God think W10 is the best OS MS has ever made.
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Did you try the right click thing? As I'm sitting at my work computer now there's like a second delay between when I click and when the menu pops up, which is slow as hell. I just need to make sure Microsoft didn't just botch Canada's Windows 10 ;P

I think it looks nice, but that's about where it ends. I do prefer the start menu to 8, but I prefer 7's start menu to the new anniversary update version of 10's (why change it, it was fine!) Like I said, I went in wanting to like this OS. I used to be the guy getting beta copies of 7 and Vista to try it out before release. Everything just went terrible for me on basically every computer I put 10 on...which is every single computer I use, yeah, I dove in head first. Kind of wish I held off at least on the work computers.
 
speedyink said:
Did you try the right click thing? As I'm sitting at my work computer now there's like a second delay between when I click and when the menu pops up, which is slow as hell. I just need to make sure Microsoft didn't just botch Canada's Windows 10 ;P

I think it looks nice, but that's about where it ends. I do prefer the start menu to 8, but I prefer 7's start menu to the new anniversary update version of 10's (why change it, it was fine!) Like I said, I went in wanting to like this OS. I used to be the guy getting beta copies of 7 and Vista to try it out before release. Everything just went terrible for me on basically every computer I put 10 on...which is every single computer I use, yeah, I dove in head first. Kind of wish I held off at least on the work computers.
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Yeah I see what you mean about the right click, although I think it's just slow because it's rendering the animation rather than just appearing like it did before. Seems a small gripe IMO, but yeah I'll give you that. :D

The way it goes about updating all your drivers for you and everything is incredibly helpful for me at work. It's a night and day difference installing 7 vs 10. I can install a fresh up to date copy of 10 in about an hour or so vs 7 taking me sometimes a day or two to fight with Windows update and manually find several drivers and what not. It runs better on older machines than 7 does too, interestingly enough. (Usually, and assuming driver support).
 
Darren said:
Yeah I see what you mean about the right click, although I think it's just slow because it's rendering the animation rather than just appearing like it did before. Seems a small gripe IMO, but yeah I'll give you that. :D

The way it goes about updating all your drivers for you and everything is incredibly helpful for me at work. It's a night and day difference installing 7 vs 10. I can install a fresh up to date copy of 10 in about an hour or so vs 7 taking me sometimes a day or two to fight with Windows update and manually find several drivers and what not. It runs better on older machines than 7 does too, interestingly enough. (Usually, and assuming driver support).
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Ok so it's not just me, and yeah I admit it's a small gripe. There's just lots of small gripes I have. Does browsing through a zip folder, and especially a zip within a zip, slow explorer down to a crawl? It does this on my 8 core machine, I never remember this being an issue.

I could see how 10 would be an easier/quicker install, that's one thing they've definitely improved over each iteration. Although I must say 7 isn't too bad, it's not like XP territory where you had to install like every driver. Do NOT miss that =P
 
speedyink said:
Ok so it's not just me, and yeah I admit it's a small gripe. There's just lots of small gripes I have. Does browsing through a zip folder, and especially a zip within a zip, slow explorer down to a crawl? It does this on my 8 core machine, I never remember this being an issue.

I could see how 10 would be an easier/quicker install, that's one thing they've definitely improved over each iteration. Although I must say 7 isn't too bad, it's not like XP territory where you had to install like every driver. Do NOT miss that =P
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7Zip. :)
 
Sadly with downloads I don't get to choose usually... If it were up to me this zip within a zip thing would be abolished.

I always liked using original Windows programs over 3rd party.. I guess if 10 is gonna act like this I might have to use a 3rd party one in the mean time.
 
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Intel_man said:
Does this mean you prefer Internet Explorer over 3rd party browsers? :eek::eek::eek::eek:
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Well I suppose when the alternative was Netscape and the like, yeah actually =P
But yeah, Firefox then Chrome came out.

Little things like burning iso's and managing .zip files I liked using Explorer. No third party stuff to install, and it's all conveniently in the same spot I manage my files.
 
speedyink said:
Well I suppose when the alternative was Netscape and the like, yeah actually =P
But yeah, Firefox then Chrome came out.

Little things like burning iso's and managing .zip files I liked using Explorer. No third party stuff to install, and it's all conveniently in the same spot I manage my files.
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I can totally appreciate this actually. The Photos app and Video Player in W10 are pretty decent IMO compared to their Live predecessors. Overall MS is definitely pushing for more built in apps that reduce the need for 3rd party stuff. They do need to give Explorer a makeover though with some more advanced options for managing files, it's one of the few things left that doesn't mesh with the overall aesthetic.
 
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