Need help pushing value for budget system

Potsnpans

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Hello everyone, I'm in the process of buying some components to set myself up with a fairly capable system. It is to be used for casual entertainment like games, movies, light photoshop editing and office work.

My budget stretches around $AUD 500-700 with the intention of getting me a case, psu, cpu, mobo, ram, gfx, hdd and kboard+mouse. I've already got a monitor, dvd-rom and a speaker set from an old system to dismantle and add onto this purchase.

To be honest, I've built my fare share of systems and I'm not looking for miracles with this budget. It is probably more a case of emergency as my old system is about to crash and causes headaches on a regular basis. I do need help though, as I'm not experienced with budget purchases and I imagine it being more complex to assemble an optimal system this way. Coupled with not being present on the computer market for some time, I feel like I'm not exactly on top of things anymore...

What I am looking for in terms of performance is something to handles games like Heroes of Newerth and Quake Live on highest settings(I guess in general, these are the factors that will determine the systems capabilities). The challenge I think lies in finding good value hardware that will not hamper the quality for the sake of saving some cash.

Here are the sites that I know of and are available to me (Australian and available in Sydney):

www.techbuy.com.au
http://www.i-tech.com.au/
http://www.ddcomputer.com.au

The hardware I'm currently considering (all in $AUD):

Case - CoolerMaster RC-690 Midi-Tower Case $112.80
CPU - AMD Athlon II X4 630 Quad Core (2.8GHz) - AM3, 2MB Cache, 45nm, 95W $136.75
RAM - Corsair 3GB (3 x 1GB) PC3-12800 1600MHz DDR3 RAM - 8-8-8-24 $180.60
Mobo - Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3 Motherboard AM3, AMD770, SB710, HT 5200, $110.90
GPU - Sapphire Radeon HD 5750 - 512MB GDDR5 - (700MHz, 4600MHz) 128-bit, $164.85
HDD – Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000.C 500GB 7200rpm Serial ATA-II-300 HDD w. 16MB $68.70
Mouse/Kboard - Gigabyte GK-KM6150 Desktop - Elegant Multimedia Keyboard + Mouse USB $17.40

TOTAL $792 (this is what I want to press down as much as possible)

Anyway enough of me, I'm interested in your thoughts about all of this. Thanks!
 
RAM - Get 2 x 2GB or 2x 1GB. AMD not support triple channel
HDD - I personally would avoid Hitachi. Seagate/ WD is my prefered brand.
PSU - Where is it??
Case - you can get a cheaper case if you really want to reduce the price. May be Antec 200/ CM elite 310??

BTW, you can check pricespy.com.au as well.
 
So, I got on some price comparison sites and started searching for some core components.

This is what I've come up with so far. I'm concerned wether or not the PSU is enough and, if I've gotten a too weak/strong GPU for the computers purpose.

http://www.gocomp.com.au/index.php?cpath=productinfo&pid=II05181 - AMD Athlon II x4 630

http://www.gocomp.com.au/index.php?cpath=productinfo&pid=II04504 - Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P

http://www.gocomp.com.au/index.php?cpath=productinfo&pid=II05539 - Corsair 2x2GB DDR3 1333MHz

http://www.gocomp.com.au/index.php?cpath=productinfo&pid=II00079 - Antec Three Hundred Case

http://www.gocomp.com.au/index.php?cpath=productinfo&pid=II05736 - Anted NEO ECO 450W PSU

http://www.gocomp.com.au/index.php?cpath=productinfo&pid=II04019 - 500GB WD Caviar Black

http://www.gocomp.com.au/index.php?cpath=productinfo&pid=II06646 - XFX 1GB DDR5 HD5670

http://www.gocomp.com.au/index.php?cpath=productinfo&pid=II05240 - Windows7 HP 64-bit

http://www.gocomp.com.au/index.php?cpath=productinfo&pid=II03353 - Mouse

http://www.gocomp.com.au/index.php?cpath=productinfo&pid=II03842 - Keyboard

Total:$AUD$834.20

What about an Gigabyte Gigabyte ATI HD4650 Overclocked PCI-E 2.0 1GB 128-bit GDDR2, for about $60 less than the above. How far can one go until I reach a bottleneck effect or just plain not meet the requirements?

The price have obviously gone up from before, where I set out to spend around $500-700, but I'm content with the additions of HDD and OS. If anyone has an idea of ways to lower the costs with the same components I'd love to hear about it.
 
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To wrap this purchuse up, I've come up with two of the so far cheapest alternatives yet. Not a lot of difference between them I assume, but I thought I'd bring it up with you guys and see where which one gets more love.

ONE
from https://www.pcdiy.com.au

AMD Athlon II X2 245 Dual Core 2.9GHz AM3 Socket $68.00
Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P AMD770 DDR3 Motherboard ATX $115.00
G.Skill 4GB DDR3 1600Mhz PC12800 (2x2G) F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ $139.00
Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" SATA 16MB 7200RPM ST3500418AS $55.00
Antec VSK-2000 Black ATX Tower Case No PSU $57.00
Logitech Deluxe 250 Desktop Black - USB $18.00
Thermaltake Litepower 500W PSU $63.00
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM(Condition Apply) $115.00
Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD 5670 1GB Graphics Card HDMI R567OC-1G $127.00

Sub-Total: $757.00 + $55 shipping (I might be able to pickup for $0 though).

TWO
from http://www.pccasegear.com

AMD Athlon II X2 245 $76.00
Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P Motherboard $103.00
G.Skill F3-10666CL9D-4GBNQ (2x2GB) DDR3 $139.00
Antec New Solution VSK-2000 Case $65.00
Sapphire Radeon HD5670 512MB $109.00
Microsoft Wired Desktop 400 OEM $19.00
Western Digital Blue 500GB WD5000AAKS $63.00
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM $135.00
Antec Neo Eco 400C 400W Power Supply $56.00

Sub-Total: $765.00 + $35 shipping
 
I'm voting for #2, pccasegear is an excellent company and the PSU is of better quality (even though it is only 400w.)
 
What is the significance of getting a Athlon II X3 435 and a GA-MA770TA-UD3P instead? I've found good prices on megaware and it seems like a more upgradable choice as far as OC'ing. My only question really is, wether or not it is good choice in regards to value for performance?
 
Simply that it's a triple core cpu over a dual core. If you can afford it, then grab it, but if not then that's fine. The Athlon X2 is still a decent CPU. As for the motherboard, I couldn't find it on pccasegear/newegg. Honestly, I think the motherboard you have right now is good enough. The only thing you might want to consider upgrading is the PSU. 400w is enough for an energy efficienst system like yours (AMD X2 245 TPD - 65w, 5670 - 90w) but if you wanted to upgrade to a more powerful Quad Core system later on then 400w is pushing the limits. But at the moment, 400w is good enough.
 
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Yes, but I specified a 5670, not a 5750. :)

Thank you all for chipping in, I've definitely done major adjustments throughout this forum thread so it's been helpful to say the least.

I'm going to contemplate a little longer on the X2 vs X3 decision, but other than that I'm fairly pleased with the current choices.
 
So, I got on some price comparison sites and started searching for some core components.

This is what I've come up with so far. I'm concerned wether or not the PSU is enough and, if I've gotten a too weak/strong GPU for the computers purpose.
 
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