Need some help, HEAT!

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xXbrick84Xx

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Hey guys, I'm new here but not new to computers. I've been running a custom AMD build for about 3 years, upgrading as I go. Currently I'm running an AMD Athlon 64 X2 7850 Black Edition OC to 3.0Ghz, an ECS GF8200A Black Edition MOBO, EVGA Geforce GTS 250 512mb (no OC), 2048mb of A-Data DDR2 667Mhz RAM (upgrading soon thankfully!), a WD 160gb EIDE HDD (also upgrading!). But enough of this nonsense, lately I've been having some serious problems with what I'm guessing is heat. I can feel the heat coming off of my Raidmax Smilodon Case and sometimes the top above the PSU is actually hot to touch! But I've never had these issues before. I'm getting constant BSOD every time I play a graphics or processor intensive game for more than a short period of time. I have a 500w psu (the default one that came with my case) and it has worked fine for all this time. It's getting very hot and I noticed that the heatsink on my cpu is also. I have two 120mm fans, an 80mm fan, a 92mm cpu fan that keeps it at about a 31C idle, and a 120mm fan in my psu (or something like that). Once again I've never had problems with heat before, and I've been playing the same games. Any ideas on how I can cool my pc down and what is happening!? Any input is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Brick

P.S. Windows 7 32 bit
 
...keeps it at about a 31C idle
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Well, what are the temps now? Download SpeedFan and find out. (http://download.cnet.com/SpeedFan/3000-2094_4-10067444.html)

I'm not sure what is getting hot exactly. If it was my box, the first thing I would do would be to swap out the PSU and put some new thermal paste on the CPU, and stop OCing (for now). Check the temps.

Then I'd pull the graphics card out and just run onboard graphics, and see what my temps were then. If they were acceptable, then I'd put the graphics card back in and check the temps.

Try that out then post back here. Could be that the PSU is going out and not supplying sufficient power to the fans? Or the fans are going out? Or any number of things, really. Some info from SpeedFan ought to shed some light on the problem...
 
deanj20 said:
Well, what are the temps now? Download SpeedFan and find out. (http://download.cnet.com/SpeedFan/3000-2094_4-10067444.html)

I'm not sure what is getting hot exactly. If it was my box, the first thing I would do would be to swap out the PSU and put some new thermal paste on the CPU, and stop OCing (for now). Check the temps.

Then I'd pull the graphics card out and just run onboard graphics, and see what my temps were then. If they were acceptable, then I'd put the graphics card back in and check the temps.

Try that out then post back here. Could be that the PSU is going out and not supplying sufficient power to the fans? Or the fans are going out? Or any number of things, really. Some info from SpeedFan ought to shed some light on the problem...
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Seems to be my CPU! CPU is currently at 71C just after playing need for speed shift for a bit to see how hot I get. Core is 66C which is also hot. I'll try putting some more thermal paste on the CPU and see how that works.

Thanks for the tips,
Brick
 
Problem found!! The 4 pin connector going from my PSU to the motherboard is fried..... PC is still running good but when a lot of power is needed, as in to play a game, the PSU can only sustain itself for a few minutes. I'll just need to get a new PSU.

Thanks for the help,
Brick
 
xXbrick84Xx said:
Problem found!! The 4 pin connector going from my PSU to the motherboard is fried..... PC is still running good but when a lot of power is needed, as in to play a game, the PSU can only sustain itself for a few minutes. I'll just need to get a new PSU.

Thanks for the help,
Brick
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Its a good thing that you found out the cause. This means you'll be needing a better cooling system for your system unit.
 
xXbrick84Xx said:
Problem found!! The 4 pin connector going from my PSU to the motherboard is fried..... PC is still running good but when a lot of power is needed, as in to play a game, the PSU can only sustain itself for a few minutes. I'll just need to get a new PSU.

Thanks for the help,
Brick
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Ignoring spammer DanyD above me, I wonder if that happened because of high resistance in the connection, or just because the mobo was drawing too much current through some of those 4 wires because the PSU had become inadequate.
 
Method9 said:
Ignoring spammer DanyD above me, I wonder if that happened because of high resistance in the connection, or just because the mobo was drawing too much current through some of those 4 wires because the PSU had become inadequate.
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And it looks like I may need a new MOBO....... :( it looks like the inside of my 4 pin power connector on the board is fried too. THIS SUCKS. Any suggestions for a good cheap psu? And an AM2+ board? Thanks for all your input guys.

Brick

P.S. It was only a 500w PSU, and I had heard some bad things about it coming from other owners of the raidmax smilodon case. It seemed to work well but I should have checked it out sooner before it fried my motherboard and everything.
 
I'm fairly new to computer building, so feel free to ignore this, but I think if your case, hard drive, GPU, and external stuff is still in good shape, and you are going to get a new psu, a new mobo, and were going to upgrade your ram anyway, maybe you should consider upgrading your cpu as well and just doing the whole shabang. I don't think you are that outdated or anything, and I probably don't know enough about the dating on your CPU and MOBO combo to say that (I'm going to look around after I post this), but it just seems like it might be worth putting my 2 cents in. Also maybe you could get an AM3/AM2+ board, and keep your cpu for now if you want, then you would have the option of upgrading to an AM3 phenom or something like that later. Food for thought.

good luck,

Andy

edit: well like I said I didn't really necessarily know my stuff, and upon looking around, found that AM2+ has X4's and such. So maybe that was all dumb crap I wrote, but I'll leave it there anyway. Good luck.
 
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struby2 said:
I'm fairly new to computer building, so feel free to ignore this, but I think if your case, hard drive, GPU, and external stuff is still in good shape, and you are going to get a new psu, a new mobo, and were going to upgrade your ram anyway, maybe you should consider upgrading your cpu as well and just doing the whole shabang. I don't think you are that outdated or anything, and I probably don't know enough about the dating on your CPU and MOBO combo to say that (I'm going to look around after I post this), but it just seems like it might be worth putting my 2 cents in. Also maybe you could get an AM3/AM2+ board, and keep your cpu for now if you want, then you would have the option of upgrading to an AM3 phenom or something like that later. Food for thought.

good luck,

Andy

edit: well like I said I didn't really necessarily know my stuff, and upon looking around, found that AM2+ has X4's and such. So maybe that was all dumb crap I wrote, but I'll leave it there anyway. Good luck.
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Your advice wasn't all that bad, being that the board I'm getting is an AM3/AM2+ board anyway lol. But thanks for the input, you know your stuff :)

Brick
 
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