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Metal Man 2

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I am needing to buy a new desk top to run the current program of Auto CAD, Inventor, and solid works with 3D. I also want to run Windows or better,microsoft office and some games and a little music. What can you guys recommend for me? Thanks
 
If you post a budget,
if or anything you already have,
and where you are so we know where you can buy from,

recommendations can be made.
 
Benny Boy said:
If you post a budget,
if or anything you already have,
and where you are so we know where you can buy from,

recommendations can be made.
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500-600 dollars American. I am in Texas ,D-FW. I have dabbled in electronics a little but am no engineer. Do you think I could pull it off for the first time. I have put electronics together for all my RC cars, airplanes, and helis. Or I will also except any recommendations on builders. I was pointed in this direction by a computer guy on a fishing forum,lol.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+...rive/1700107.p?id=1218282105177&skuId=1700107

Researching this tool it seems to be a great all around "average" CPU. With tons of room to upgrade. BUT, has a weak power supply. If I can build better for the same money I am for that. Thanks :confused:
 
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Metal Man 2 said:
500-600 dollars American. I am in Texas ,D-FW. I have dabbled in electronics a little but am no engineer. Do you think I could pull it off for the first time. I have put electronics together for all my RC cars, airplanes, and helis. Or I will also except any recommendations on builders. I was pointed in this direction by a computer guy on a fishing forum,lol.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+...rive/1700107.p?id=1218282105177&skuId=1700107

Researching this tool it seems to be a great all around "average" CPU. With tons of room to upgrade. BUT, has a weak power supply. If I can build better for the same money I am for that. Thanks :confused:
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For this budget, it would be better you build it yourself
 
 
Metal Man 2 said:
I will also except any recommendations on builders.
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No need for that. It's not that difficult. Start here::
http://www.computerforum.com/104641-how-build-computer-step-step-photos.html

I have no interest in the BB pc becuase we already know that it's going to be exprnsive and inferior compared to what your going to build. And their CS for pc's is pretty bad.

I was interested in the BB link to see the cost. Was 5-600?
Trying to find out if that's what you based the 5-600 on, or if that's what you want to spend.
Also because we need to know if it's just the tower portion w/ 7 or had other periferals you need. If it's just the tower/os then the $600 is doable for the needs you describe, but that amount is in the area where another 50-100 would go a longggg ways towards higher performance.

Also, are rebates ok?
 
Benny Boy said:

No need for that. It's not that difficult. Start here::
http://www.computerforum.com/104641-how-build-computer-step-step-photos.html

I have no interest in the BB pc becuase we already know that it's going to be exprnsive and inferior compared to what your going to build. And their CS for pc's is pretty bad.

I was interested in the BB link to see the cost. Was 5-600?
Trying to find out if that's what you based the 5-600 on, or if that's what you want to spend.
Also because we need to know if it's just the tower portion w/ 7 or had other periferals you need. If it's just the tower/os then the $600 is doable for the needs you describe, but that amount is in the area where another 50-100 would go a longggg ways towards higher performance.

Also, are rebates ok?
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THANKS DAISYMTC, I APPRECIATE THE LINKS AND HELP. Are both of those set ups the same,does the home built have better performance ? After calculating the cost are the same but one comes with a key board and mouse.


BENNY BOY, actually the price is 450 for the tower only. Rebates are fine, and I am willing to spend 600 on the tower alone.
What does 1 TB mean?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...p=&qp=&list=n&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960




Warranty Terms - Parts1 year
Warranty Terms - Labor1 year limited
Product Height16.1"
Product Width6.7"
Product Weight19.8 lbs.
Product Depth15.9"
Processor BrandAMD
ProcessorAMD Athlon™ II X2
Processor Speed2.8GHz
System Bus1066MHz
Cache Memory1MB
System Memory (RAM)4GB
System Memory (RAM) Expandable To16GB
Type of Memory (RAM)DDR3
Hard Drive TypeSATA (7200 rpm)
Hard Drive Size1TB
GraphicsATI Radeon 3000
Video MemoryUp to 1024MB shared
AudioHigh-definition (8-channel)
SpeakersNone
Network CardBuilt-in 10/100/1000 Ethernet LAN (RJ-45 connector)
Wireless NetworkingNone
Recordable DVD DriveYes, double-layer DVD±RW/CD-RW
Recordable DVD Drive Speeds8x DVD+R DL; 8x DVD-R DL; 16x8x16 DVD+RW; 16x6x16 DVD-RW; 5x DVD-RAM; 48x32x48 CD-RW
Direct-Disc LabelingNo
Digital Media Reader or SlotsYes, digital media card reader
Available Expansion BaysExternal: 1 (5.25"); Internal: 1 (3.5")
Available Expansion Slots2 PCI, 1 PCI-E x16
USB 2.0 Ports10 (4 front, 6 rear)
Keyboard DescriptionUSB multimedia
Other Control Devices (mouse, etc.)USB mouse
Operating System PlatformWindows
Operating SystemWindows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Software IncludedAdobe Reader, Adobe Flash; Microsoft Silverlight
ENERGY STAR QualifiedNo
Best Buy PC AppYes
HDMI OutputYes
Blu-ray PlayerNo
Graphics ChipATI
Processor PlatformVISION
Drive Capacity1TB
Desktop TypesEveryday
 
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Metal Man 2 said:
THANKS DAISYMTC, I APPRECIATE THE LINKS AND HELP. Are both of those set ups the same,does the home built have better performance ? After calculating the cost are the same but one comes with a key board and mouse.


BENNY BOY, actually the price is 450 for the tower only. Rebates are fine, and I am willing to spend 600 on the tower alone.
What does 1 TB mean?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...p=&qp=&list=n&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960




Warranty Terms - Parts1 year
Warranty Terms - Labor1 year limited
Product Height16.1"
Product Width6.7"
Product Weight19.8 lbs.
Product Depth15.9"
Processor BrandAMD
ProcessorAMD Athlon™ II X2
Processor Speed2.8GHz
System Bus1066MHz
Cache Memory1MB
System Memory (RAM)4GB
System Memory (RAM) Expandable To16GB
Type of Memory (RAM)DDR3
Hard Drive TypeSATA (7200 rpm)
Hard Drive Size1TB
GraphicsATI Radeon 3000
Video MemoryUp to 1024MB shared
AudioHigh-definition (8-channel)
SpeakersNone
Network CardBuilt-in 10/100/1000 Ethernet LAN (RJ-45 connector)
Wireless NetworkingNone
Recordable DVD DriveYes, double-layer DVD±RW/CD-RW
Recordable DVD Drive Speeds8x DVD+R DL; 8x DVD-R DL; 16x8x16 DVD+RW; 16x6x16 DVD-RW; 5x DVD-RAM; 48x32x48 CD-RW
Direct-Disc LabelingNo
Digital Media Reader or SlotsYes, digital media card reader
Available Expansion BaysExternal: 1 (5.25"); Internal: 1 (3.5")
Available Expansion Slots2 PCI, 1 PCI-E x16
USB 2.0 Ports10 (4 front, 6 rear)
Keyboard DescriptionUSB multimedia
Other Control Devices (mouse, etc.)USB mouse
Operating System PlatformWindows
Operating SystemWindows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Software IncludedAdobe Reader, Adobe Flash; Microsoft Silverlight
ENERGY STAR QualifiedNo
Best Buy PC AppYes
HDMI OutputYes
Blu-ray PlayerNo
Graphics ChipATI
Processor PlatformVISION
Drive Capacity1TB
Desktop TypesEveryday
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Phenom II 925 > Athlon II x4 640
GTS 450 > 5670

However, the home build one with good quality of PSU, which those OEM box lack of.
 
Metal Man 2 said:
THANKS DAISYMTC, I APPRECIATE THE LINKS AND HELP. Are both of those set ups the same,does the home built have better performance ? After calculating the cost are the same but one comes with a key board and mouse.


BENNY BOY, actually the price is 450 for the tower only. Rebates are fine, and I am willing to spend 600 on the tower alone.
What does 1 TB mean?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...p=&qp=&list=n&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960




Warranty Terms - Parts1 year
Warranty Terms - Labor1 year limited
Product Height16.1"
Product Width6.7"
Product Weight19.8 lbs.
Product Depth15.9"
Processor BrandAMD
ProcessorAMD Athlon™ II X2
Processor Speed2.8GHz
System Bus1066MHz
Cache Memory1MB
System Memory (RAM)4GB
System Memory (RAM) Expandable To16GB
Type of Memory (RAM)DDR3
Hard Drive TypeSATA (7200 rpm)
Hard Drive Size1TB
GraphicsATI Radeon 3000
Video MemoryUp to 1024MB shared
AudioHigh-definition (8-channel)
SpeakersNone
Network CardBuilt-in 10/100/1000 Ethernet LAN (RJ-45 connector)
Wireless NetworkingNone
Recordable DVD DriveYes, double-layer DVD±RW/CD-RW
Recordable DVD Drive Speeds8x DVD+R DL; 8x DVD-R DL; 16x8x16 DVD+RW; 16x6x16 DVD-RW; 5x DVD-RAM; 48x32x48 CD-RW
Direct-Disc LabelingNo
Digital Media Reader or SlotsYes, digital media card reader
Available Expansion BaysExternal: 1 (5.25"); Internal: 1 (3.5")
Available Expansion Slots2 PCI, 1 PCI-E x16
USB 2.0 Ports10 (4 front, 6 rear)
Keyboard DescriptionUSB multimedia
Other Control Devices (mouse, etc.)USB mouse
Operating System PlatformWindows
Operating SystemWindows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Software IncludedAdobe Reader, Adobe Flash; Microsoft Silverlight
ENERGY STAR QualifiedNo
Best Buy PC AppYes
HDMI OutputYes
Blu-ray PlayerNo
Graphics ChipATI
Processor PlatformVISION
Drive Capacity1TB
Desktop TypesEveryday
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For your use, CPU with more core will be better. Also that one only have onboard video, which is not good enough for your use.
 
What daisymtc said^
Metal Man 2 said:
BENNY BOY, actually the price is 450 for the tower only. Rebates are fine, and I am willing to spend 600 on the tower alone.
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Metal Man 2 said:
What does 1 TB mean?
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1TB = 1,000 gb.

Ok, some specifics could be made about that pre-built's hardware but..
For $633.57 after deals/shipping - a bit over but everything is of quality and up to date. The prebuilt isn't.
Another 6850 can be added later on if/when an uprade for that is needed. The ability to add a second doen't really add to the cost. But the gpu requirement does. What games are it going to run? The diff between a 5770 and a 6850 is only about $40-50. I say only because the 6850 uses the newer R900 series chip and has twice the memory bus.
Having a good quality mb will be used for some time means you can reinstall the oem os if you change the system drive later on(like upgrade to a solid state drive).
Antec NEO ECO 620C 620W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply

ASRock 870 EXTREME3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD
Motherboard

AMD Athlon II X4 640 Propus 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor ADX640WFGMBOX

ASUS EAH6850 DC/2DIS/1GD5/V2 Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready

A-DATA Gaming Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model AX3U1600GB2G9-2G

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM

HEC Blitz Black Steel Edition ATX Mid Tower Computer Chassis Gaming Case w/ Front Blue LED 120mm Fan & Top 120mm Fan
 
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Benny Boy said:
What daisymtc said^

1TB = 1,000 gb.

Ok, some specifics could be made about that pre-built's hardware but..
For $633.57 after deals/shipping - a bit over but everything is of quality and up to date. The prebuilt isn't.
Another 6850 can be added later on if/when an uprade for that is needed. The ability to add a second doen't really add to the cost. But the gpu requirement does. What games are it going to run? The diff between a 5770 and a 6850 is only about $40-50. I say only because the 6850 uses the newer R900 series chip and has twice the memory bus.
Having a good quality mb will be used for some time means you can reinstall the oem os if you change the system drive later on(like upgrade to a solid state drive).
Antec NEO ECO 620C 620W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply

ASRock 870 EXTREME3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD
Motherboard

AMD Athlon II X4 640 Propus 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor ADX640WFGMBOX

ASUS EAH6850 DC/2DIS/1GD5/V2 Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready

A-DATA Gaming Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model AX3U1600GB2G9-2G

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM

HEC Blitz Black Steel Edition ATX Mid Tower Computer Chassis Gaming Case w/ Front Blue LED 120mm Fan & Top 120mm Fan
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Thanks guys , I appreciate your help. Benny , would more hard drive help out (like 1T)? If this is sufficient for what I need right now I can upgrade at a later time. What about wireless connection? Should I go that route or use a land line? I think I read that wireless was not so great for the heavy duty stuff. As far as games I am wanting to run there are none at the moment , but that would change once I get the system.
 
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Metal Man 2 said:
Thanks guys , I appreciate your help. Benny , would more hard drive help out (like 1T)? If this is sufficient for what I need right now I can upgrade at a later time. What about wireless connection? Should I go that route or use a land line? I think I read that wireless was not so great for the heavy duty stuff. As far as games I am wanting to run there are none at the moment , but that would change once I get the system.
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If 500gb isn't enough right now, you could get a 1tb. 500 is a lot of space really, and I personally wouldnt want my os on a 1tb. With 1 large drive everything would be suseptable, and more than 1 drive spreads out the wear.
More hdd's are an easy upgrade. So unless you have a huge amount to store right now, I'd recommend the 500 and just get a 1 TB later on for storage.
Not sure on the wireless cards. There's probly some units that have good connection speed. Hardwired ensures full speed and nothing to buy.
Something I didn't incorporate was a flash/memory card reader/writer, if you want one of those.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&Description=card%20reader%20internal%203%2E5&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=100
 
Thanks again, I am looking into this and likely going to order in the next day or so.


Benny Boy said:
For $633.57 after deals/shipping - a bit over but everything is of quality and up to date. The prebuilt isn't.[/COLOR]
Another 6850 can be added later on if/when an uprade for that is needed. The ability to add a second doen't really add to the cost. But the gpu requirement does. What games are it going to run? The diff between a 5770 and a 6850 is only about $40-50. I say only because the 6850 uses the newer R900 series chip and has twice the memory bus.
Having a good quality mb will be used for some time means you can reinstall the oem os if you change the system drive later on(like upgrade to a solid state drive).
Antec NEO ECO 620C 620W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply

ASRock 870 EXTREME3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD
Motherboard

AMD Athlon II X4 640 Propus 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor ADX640WFGMBOX

ASUS EAH6850 DC/2DIS/1GD5/V2 Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready

A-DATA Gaming Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model AX3U1600GB2G9-2G

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM

HEC Blitz Black Steel Edition ATX Mid Tower Computer Chassis Gaming Case w/ Front Blue LED 120mm Fan & Top 120mm Fan
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Ok, be sure and check back before you pull the trigger to see if there's any other input, and that the deals are the same.:)
 
Will be ready to pull the trigger soon, since I mainly need it right now for school here at home. I will wait till mon. to see if anything pops up. I have too drive about 45 minutes both ways, and pay for day care. So, the quicker I get it I can save on gas,childcare, and time. The wife gave it the ok ,quickly,:D
 
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