New build slower to boot than old Dell

KaBone

KaBone

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My Dell Dimension 4600C with a Pentium running XP Home and 256MB PC2 3200 ram used to take about 6 minutes to boot from startup. I upped the ram to 2GB PC2 6400 and that cut the boot time to 100 seconds.

I build my new system with a Q9550, 4GB PC2 8500 running XP Pro SP3 and the boot time is almost 3 minutes. It's embarrassing and probably due to the number of startup programs. Still, I would have thought it could handle more than double the number of startup programs and still be faster. Any suggestions?
 
not nesscarily. Remember, the old computer probably had the same speed HD (7200RPM). How many start up programs do you haeve and what are they? We will tell you if they are needed.
 
Look in msconfig and see what programs are running at bootup and stop them if you don't need them. 3 minutes to boot up to desktop is just insane. With my setup i'm at the desktop in about a minute.
 
Dude, thats crazy, i would go nuts if my desktop took that long to boot up! I would freak out if it took 2 minutes to boot up...Mine boots up in about 50sec. but i have only what is needed for me...What kind of programs are you having start up at the boot?
 
I think the dell hdd was about 5k rpm. The new is 7200 rpm with 16MB cache. Let me clarify what I mean by booting. I get the desktop screen in about a minute, but what good is that but a picture? I'm talking the time to go from power on, profile log on, open windows explorer fully, and then open my home page (about:blank). I'll post the full list of startup programs later tonight. Off the top of my head, it's an ATI program for HD 4850, InCD for the opti-drive, McAfee, and TuneUp something and Gigabyte updater for the mobo. I think.
 
Mine takes about 20 seconds to boot up (specs in sig).

You have a problem there if it's taking 3 minutes with those specs.
 
tknick90 said:
Mine takes about 20 seconds to boot up (specs in sig).
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Mine usually takes somewhere between 10 and 13 seconds to go from on to firefox (unless Windows is updating, which is about 10 times a day :(). It was slightly faster when I had raid, but I didn't like the idea of loosing one drive and the contents of the other (because it splits each file over the two drives).

Ughhh, just messy in my book. Load times aren't that different anyway :)
 
KaBone said:
I think the dell hdd was about 5k rpm.
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It was a 5400rpm then, the old standard. It's 7200rpm or 10000rpm now though :)

Did you check that XP is not running updates and such? Mine used to every single time I booted (not the one in sig, :D) Generally, I stop the ATi process (it's usually only Catalyst which can be used to modify card settings). Just start it from the menu when needed. Is TuneUp for your graphics card, processor, or for something else?

A fuller list would be helpful, so I'm sure we'll check back when you post one.
 
Here's the startup list:
RTHDCPL
SOUNDMAN
ALCWZRD
ALCMTR
(a 'u' w/ 2 dots over it followed by a square)
xInsIDE (RaidTool)
xRaidSetup
ETcall (Gigabyte)
ISUSPM
issch
PreRun (Gigabyte)
mcagent (McAfee)
McENUI (McAfee)
CLIStart (ATI)
NeroCheck
NBHGui (Nero)
InCD (Nero)
SSBkgdupdate
OpwareSE4 (Omni Page printer software)
LightScribeControlPanel
ctfmon (I say, 'eh, mon')
 
azwebs said:
It was a 5400rpm then, the old standard. It's 7200rpm or 10000rpm now though :)

Did you check that XP is not running updates and such? Mine used to every single time I booted (not the one in sig, :D) Generally, I stop the ATi process (it's usually only Catalyst which can be used to modify card settings). Just start it from the menu when needed. Is TuneUp for your graphics card, processor, or for something else?

A fuller list would be helpful, so I'm sure we'll check back when you post one.
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Thats quite the computer for a 14 year old... I find it hard to believe you use 16gb of ram, let alone the 32gb.

My desktop boots in less than 30 seconds (haven't timed it, but it's pretty damn fast), and it's not anything special. It's all in optimizing the startup programs and keeping your computer clean. Looks like you can get rid of at least half the ones you have.

CLIStart (ATI)
NeroCheck
NBHGui (Nero)
InCD (Nero)
SSBkgdupdate
OpwareSE4 (Omni Page printer software)
LightScribeControlPane (unless you use this a lot, I never have)
ETcall (Gigabyte)
ISUSPM
issch

Get rid of those to start.
 
nucklearknight said:
There's a startup item called "BLOG" and the manufacturer is "Unknown"
Any idea what it is? Google just showed me a ton of blogs.
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- Are you talking my system or yours?


During startup, the first screen is the mobo that allows me to go to the bios among others. That stays on for about 5 seconds. The next screen is a matrix of the PCI slots, also for about 5 seconds. Then comes the Windows start screen for about 10 seconds. Then it's blank for about 3 seconds. Then comes the profile login screen. I just don't see how it can boot in 20 seconds. But I'd like to. I'll stop the recommended startup programs, re-time, and let you know the results.
 
azwebs said:
Mine usually takes somewhere between 10 and 13 seconds to go from on to firefox (unless Windows is updating, which is about 10 times a day :(). It was slightly faster when I had raid, but I didn't like the idea of loosing one drive and the contents of the other (because it splits each file over the two drives).

Ughhh, just messy in my book. Load times aren't that different anyway :)
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lol with 16 gb ram and 3 terabytes of drive space you should be in firefox before you even press the power button. Not that the drive size has anything to do with it. I can understand your processor but that ram and space?
 
I went to msconfig, clicked the startup tab, unchecked those programs you mentions, clicked Apply, and got the following message,
"An Access Denied error was returned while attempting to change a service. You may need to log on using an Administrator account to make the specified changes."
I am an Administrator account so I know that's not the cause. What am I doing wrong?
 
Check that - It still accepted the changes; don't know why I got the error meesage. Here're the new times from power on:
8 seconds to get to the mobo screen
6 seconds to get to the PCI devices matrix
4 seconds to get to the Windows startup screen
26 seconds to get to the logon screen
20 seconds to get to my home page
64 seconds total time

Better than 100 seconds, but still nothing like the 20 seconds people have been mentioning. Why is mine so slow?
 
KaBone said:
- Are you talking my system or yours?


During startup, the first screen is the mobo that allows me to go to the bios among others. That stays on for about 5 seconds. The next screen is a matrix of the PCI slots, also for about 5 seconds. Then comes the Windows start screen for about 10 seconds. Then it's blank for about 3 seconds. Then comes the profile login screen. I just don't see how it can boot in 20 seconds. But I'd like to. I'll stop the recommended startup programs, re-time, and let you know the results.
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My system. Sorry, I didn't mean to try to take over your thread. Just thought I would ask here instead of making a new one.
 
Please don't forget about me. I'd really like to speed up the boot process. If I can save a minute everytime I boot my computer, and my time is worth $50/hr, then in 1200 boots the computer will have paid for itself.:D
 
My rig takes 20-40 seconds to boot up and I have about 7-10 programs that start with bootup. Yours shouldn't take nearly as long, like others have said go into msconfig and uncheck the boxes that are unecessary to what you need.
 
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