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XFX 7870: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150605
8 GB RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233240
Case fans: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811998121
Sound card: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0045JHJSS/
Case: http://www.amazon.com/Classic-Serie...UTF8&qid=1359934268&sr=8-1&keywords=NZXT+M59/
CM 212 EVO: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/
Vertex SSD: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007RARHSO/
XFX PSU 650W: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008O50WKG/
FX-8350: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009O7YUF6/
MOBO: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0058HUQJ0/

Total cost is $1090. A little higher than I wanted but I think most of these parts are pretty damn good. I chose a cheaper mobo since I won't be OC'ing and the case will have turd loads of airflow. I will also be using the HDD from my previous build.

The case has some really good reviews for its price, but I had to add all the extra fans so it comes out to about $90. Unless there is any other really good ones out there like this for airflow, I think this would be a solid choice.

I haven't seen much news on the AMD 8000 cards. It sounds like they might actually be pretty damn fast but I really don't want to wait unless there is some benchmark I haven't seen that would show that they smoke the 7000 series.

Also, no flaming me for being an AMD "fanboy." They have supreme bang for the buck that Intel and Nvidia just don't provide. I don't have a big budget to work with in the first place.

Another question is about keyboards. I have looked at quite a few but am not sure which one would be a good balance between typing and gaming or if there is even any significant difference.
 
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Yes, get a better PSU. Even though that PSU should do fine, I personally wouldn't chance it.

May I ask why you want a micro case? I'm sure you have your reasons, but a full tower is day and night in air flow over a micro case(everything so crapped).

Look into the Samsung 830, Intel 520, Vortex 4, and Corsair Force Series. All good SSD's.

Oh, no one really cares if your a fan-boy of a certain company. Like you said, you have your reasons, as everyone else.

BTW, GL with the build!

Edit: Personally, I would go for the 8320 and save $20-30. Put the extra money else where. Your paying that extra money only for 100GHz more.

Edit: I don't think that keyboard could stand the abuse of any kind of gaming. Is there a reason why your going wireless on the keyboard?

Edit: Sorry, I almost forgot, Welcome to the Computer Forum!
 
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A new PS would only be around 8% of a 1200 budget. And like you said, its at the end of it's warranted life. Plus its 4 12v rails and not even bronze. New ps it is.


My first thought on the case is that the footprint is usually the space concern. Not the hieght. And can't chose from ATX mb's. I haven't looked at how the parts are configured inside the case so don't know yet how the interior space will work for what you want. You've obviously given this case some thought. You haven't seen an ATX case you like?


For SSD, in no peticular order, Marvel/Indillix/Samsung/Intel with their FW and Sandforce, controllers seem imo to be at the top of the reliability list. But there are many good ssd's out there. Let the price of it play a role in deciding.
 
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tech savvy said:
Yes, get a better PSU. Even though that PSU should do fine, I personally wouldn't chance it.

May I ask why you want a micro case? I'm sure you have your reasons, but a full tower is day and night in air flow over a micro case(everything so crapped).

Look into the Samsung 830, Intel 520, Vortex 4, and Corsair Force Series. All good SSD's.

Oh, no one really cares if your a fan-boy of a certain company. Like you said, you have your reasons, as everyone else.

BTW, GL with the build!

Edit: Personally, I would go for the 8320 and save $20-30. Put the extra money else where. Your paying that extra money only for 100GHz more.

Edit: I don't think that keyboard could stand the abuse of any kind of gaming. Is there a reason why your going wireless on the keyboard?

Edit: Sorry, I almost forgot, Welcome to the Computer Forum!
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I currently use a NZXT Tempest mid-tower which has been pretty awesome and has great airflow, but I also have a 26inch monitor so it eats up a lot of space and sits on top of the desktop so it just seems obnoxious. I found the Vertex4 for $20 more than the Crucial M4 and the speeds are much higher so I am probably going to get that.

Any suggestions with a keyboard. I do a lot of typing but not too much keyboard intensive gaming. I need something more ergonomic and easier to type with than a cheap $10 wal-fart keyboard.

Edit: Thanks for the welcome. :) I posted this same post 2 weeks ago on MaximumPC and their staff never approved my post. The reason I brought up the fanboy thing was because I frequent MaxPC quite a bit and a lot of people there hate AMD, saying that it is slow garbage. I would not call a $180, 4.0GHZ 8 core processor a slow piece of garbage. The only reason it isnt murdering the 3700k or whatever it is called, is because programs arent optimized to use 8 cores yet.

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A new PS would only be around 8% of a 1200 budget. And like you said, its at the end of it's warranted life. Plus its 4 12v rails and not even bronze. New ps it is.


My first thought on the case is that the footprint is usually the space concern. Not the hieght. And can't chose from ATX mb's. I haven't looked at how the parts are configured inside the case so don't know yet how the interior space will work for what you want. You've obviously given this case some thought. You haven't seen an ATX case you like?


For SSD, in no peticular order, Marvel/Indillix/Samsung/Intel with their FW and Sandforce, controllers seem imo to be at the top of the reliability list. But there are many good ssd's out there. Let the price of it play a role in deciding.
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Not quite sure what all the PSU rails mean. Any suggestions on a really dependable high quality PSU?

The reason you cant choose ATX is because PCpartpicker disbabled it because I chose a micro-atx case. You would have to remove the case to see ATX mobos. I have only been able to find a couple pics of hardware setup in the case and the only thing that worried me was that the CPU cooler fan would in fact blow the hot air directly into the PSU above it. I like the tower I have now but was hoping to shrink it in size. If I cant find a satisfactory conclusion to the airflow issues I will just stick with a tower, but I would like to find a new one because my NZXT is wearing out, fans are wearing down, and the ports on it are getting stuck when pushed in to start the machine, etc.
 
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AMD>Intel said:
I currently use a NZXT Tempest.
Not quite sure what all the PSU rails mean. Any suggestions on a really dependable high quality PSU?
The reason you cant choose ATX is because PCpartpicker disbabled it because I chose a micro-atx case.
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IIRC the Tempest is pretty big for a mid tower. I'd suggest a diff yet still smaller case so an aftermarket cooler will fit on the FX, not blow towards the PS, and have good cooling for all the parts. Also, even tho the A30 case says ATX ps,,could be that it will not fit like you want it to in corelation with your other parts.

It has 4 rails delivering its 12v power. The number of rails play a role in how/where the amps are delivered. A single strong rail is better.
ATM this one because of the quality, and sale/mir http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088.

I didn't mean that I couldn't chose an AXT board. I meant YOU couldn't, with that case. ATX will give you more and better options, and newest chipsets vs the older 880G which also has an IGP that you don't need unless you want one for backup(but even then, you may already have a card for that or can pick up a cheap one).

Don't build it around a case. Pick the case last :) :good:
 
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It is a pretty damn big tower, but it seems like most of the other mid size ones I am looking at are about the same size. I like the Zalman CNPS CPU cooler so I would prefer to keep it because I know it is a top performer.

As far as mobo, I can't say Im really picky. If I could find a decently smaller tower I would be fine with it. Maybe I can do a little more looking around. :)
 
I personally think you would regret a smaller case like that. Airflow would be abysmal and you've got some pretty hot parts in there. A mid tower case would be pretty small and still have better airflow. My 50 dollar Rosewill Challenger is nothing giant but still has plenty of room for cooling. Make sure if you upgrade the case that your video card will fit. Not sure how long it is though.
 
Same budget with about about $100 case:
8320 clocks about the same for less $.
Move up on the board. 970A UD3 or better.
Memory with shorter heatspreaders so the Evo's fan will fit.
Smaller SSD + HDD.
Seasonic/Corsair mostly for PS.
Around $300 for GPU if you want it.
 
Came up with a somewhat revised list. Any suggestions from here? The reason I chose a big SSD is because I want to play ArmA 2 and 3, but the game has serious micro stuttering issues with mechanical drives because it has to load so many textures. I don't know how much of a difference it will make for other games, but I suppose I could get away with 128GB if it wont cause a bunch of stuttering for other games using HDD. I play ArmA more than any other of my games combined, and even more so once I get a new computer, so I want it to run milky smooth.
 
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Case is pretty low end compared to the rest. And I'm not sure a Hyper 212 will fit in it either.
 
I saw quite a few good reviews for it which is why I thought it would be good. From what I've seen, most cases dont come with additional fans and I dont really want to drop the extra $50 for fans. Budget is somewhat tight. The 212 does have me a little worried. Does it sit 6 inches high or 6 inches wide? Case says it can only fit one that is 6 inches high max. Add in mobo and CPU to that and I dont think the lid would close.

Ok, edited with a NZXT case. Perhaps a different cooler would be required? I just noticed this: http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master...e=UTF8&qid=1359934534&sr=1-4&keywords=212+evo
 
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