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:confused: Im a new system builder, I just bought an Asus MOBO(P4P800SE). Since its chipset is intel(865PE) I check the processor that would best work with it, and this is the data that I got:

Intel® Pentium® 4 processor 3.20E-3.40E GHz, 800MHz FSB, 90nm
Intel® Pentium® 4 processor 2.80E-3.20E GHz, 800MHz FSB, 90nm
Intel® Pentium® 4 processor 2.40C-3.40 GHz, 800MHz FSB
Intel® Pentium® 4 processor (533 MHz FSB)
Intel® Pentium® 4 processor (400 MHz FSB)
Intel® Celeron® processor (400 MHz FSB)

can somebody pls. explain this data to me, I a bit confused about this data :confused:

Thank a lot!!!!!!!
 
welll i can tell the top 3 have a fsb speed of 800 mhz and the top one is 3.40 ghz thats all i know explain this to me also praetor or any1
 
- All the P4E are the Prescot chips ... not a worthwhile buy
- The P4Cs are the NorthwoodC chips, the best for your money,especially the 2.8
- The 533s are the NorthwoodB chips, officially ditched by Intel
- Celeron, those are the NorthwordA Celerons, the worst of the worst.

Your best option would be the NorthwoodB
 
so in your opinion, what would be the best CPU that would be compatible with this motherboard I want to get the full potential of this MOBO, and ive heard that 3.4E is prescott based core, and it has some kind of a flaw.
 
ive heard that 3.4E is prescott based core, and it has some kind of a flaw.
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Like i said, the P4E chips are the Prescotts and they are flawed in that they produce excessive heat with very little (if any) performance gaines compared to the P4Cs. The P4C-2.80ghz is your best bet
 
Fully agreed with Pretor, go for Intel 2.8 Series C, If he wouldnt have recomemnded that, I would have recommended that myself. this is far most best price/performance match. , though your buying of Intel Springdale Chipset is a very wise decision.

other than these you write, you forget to add another, that is Intel 3.2/3.2 EE (where EE stands for Extreme Edition) also called Prestonia Chipset, based on Northwood Core on 13 nanometer technology.

the 'E' series, Prescott, though runs hotter, besides having 3 advantages over C series Northwood, that are SSE3 Multimedia Instructions added. 9 Nanometer fabrication technology and 1MB L-2 Cache.

C series have 512K L2, (Northwood) - Price less than Presott
EE has 512K L2 + 2048 L3 (Prestonia) - Most Expensive
E has 1024 L2 (Prescott) - not as much expensive as they are newest in this written series, but are supposed to be.
 
Um i thot that prescotts were good because they had double the cache...im confused could someone clarify this? why is a prescott a waste of money they almost equal to the northwood with double the cache?
 
that is Intel 3.2/3.2 EE (where EE stands for Extreme Edition) also called Prestonia Chipset
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Unless im horribly mistaken (if so please provide a link), the Prestonia is the Xeon version of the Prescott.

Um I thot that prescotts were good because they had double the cache...im confused could someone clarify this? why is a prescott a waste of money they almost equal to the northwood with double the cache?
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The P4Es have a lot of advantages but they are all "on-paper" advantages. In real life they get beaten around by the A64s and the P4Es left, right and centre. Essentially they are a NorthwoodC + 512K L2 - 0.02 Microns + 25ºC ... a bad investment really.
 
Praetor said:
Unless im horribly mistaken (if so please provide a link), the Prestonia is the Xeon version of the Prescott.
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The prestonia is actually a Xeon version (you are right to say), but of northwood core, on 0.13 microns die, so not applicable to Prescott.

here is full architecture of Prestonia:

3.2/3.4
L1: 12+8 (same as northwood)
L2: 512K (same as northwood)
L3: 2048K
Wafer Fabrication: 0.13 (same as northwood)

EE came right at the launch of the AMD 64 Series, Prescott came after that. If I'll have money to burn extra, I will go for EE rather than E. Northwood is undoubtly best series.

here is the link :Intel's Web Site Link for Intel EE
 
Extending my previous post, this EE series is so damn powerful, that Intel is using this series (same core, different pins) on its new 925/915 series Mobo Chipsets. this processor really rocked. this means that Northwood extended its life to 915/925 series of chipsets as well (Code named, Alderwoods and Grantsdale - interested in knowing more? PM doesnt stands for prime minister in this case ;)
 
EE came right at the launch of the AMD 64 Series, Prescott came after that. If I'll have money to burn extra, I will go for EE rather than E. Northwood is undoubtly best series.
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Yep!

that Intel is using this series (same core, different pins) on its new 925/915 series Mobo Chipsets. this processor really rocked. this means that Northwood extended its life to 915/925 series of chipsets as well (Code named, Alderwoods and Grantsdale
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Not that shocking really, the Netburst architecture still has quite a bit of life left in it
 
Net Burst is coming from Willamette, Northwood is far from that. this is shared across every processor bearing Pentium 4 tag.
 
this is shared across every processor bearing Pentium 4 tag.
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Yeah.... the NetBurst approach was a very successful one both marketingwise as well as in final numbers :)
 
Gosh the P3/Athlon systems with their short pipeline design can get quite a bit of performance out of them all things considering :)
 
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