Nvidia rtx

[Shlouski]

AMD I know is getting a die shrink and they've said "Q4 2018" but I wouldn't expect to have easy access to cards until January-February.

I'm in no rush, I would just upgrade to a 1080ti if I really wanted a boost, but no way I am paying the release price for a card that is a year and a half old, I can't believe so many people think they are getting a great deal just because the cards are becoming the prices they should have been at launch.

The 2080 performing as good as the 1080 ti is expected? The 2080 ti is like a titan V for half the price. What more did you expect?

MORE, if you were to believe Nvidia's marketing, which is my point really. The 1080 was quite a bit faster than the 980ti, but the 2080 is often on par, a little faster or even slower than the 1080ti, now thats a disappointing considering Nvidia was marketing. Lol the 2080ti is a titan v for half the price, just shows you how overpriced the titan v is.

 

[Darren]

I miss my AMD drivers/software, unless AMD can't make high end competitive GPU's I don't see myself buying another Nvidia card when I eventually replace this 1080 (which is a while).

 

[Intel_man]

MORE, if you were to believe Nvidia's marketing, which is my point really. The 1080 was quite a bit faster than the 980ti, but the 2080 is often on par, a little faster or even slower than the 1080ti, now thats a disappointing considering Nvidia was marketing. Lol the 2080ti is a titan v for half the price, just shows you how overpriced the titan v is.

So you were expecting a die shrink performance increase... That's pretty unrealistic to expect based on the fact that Turing is more of an optimization of Pascal.

Considering the titan v is priced for commercial use, the $3000 price tag is expected.

 

[Shlouski]

So you were expecting a die shrink performance increase...

Please try to understand that I'm just annoyed by NVidia's marketing BS. No I didn't expect a much of a performance increase, I thought I had made that abundantly clear:

MORE, if you were to believe Nvidia's marketing

I was insinuating that I didn't.
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nvidia weren't forthcoming about how their new cards performed in traditional rasterisation

Here I'm clearly displaying suspicions that the cards may not perform so well and this is why I never pre-ordered one and instead waited to see benchmarks, but of course its disappointing, I wish they performed better.

That's pretty unrealistic to expect based on the fact that Turing is more of an optimization of Pascal.

You talk like you knew what to expect, which I think is unlikely considering even professionals in the industry didn't know what to expect. Myself and I'm sure many others wanted more from these cards because NVidia's marketing constantly showed and insinuated how much better these cards will be, but I clearly didn't believe it, I'm simply complaining about all this marketing BS.

Considering the titan v is priced for commercial use, the $3000 price tag is expected

So your agreeing with me here? Its expensive just because its for commercial use, performance wise its way overpriced, so a 2080ti at half the price of a titan V isn't looking so impressive. ​

 

[Intel_man]

So your agreeing with me here?

No.

Its expensive just because its for commercial use,

I didn't say anything that would call the Titan V "expensive". I merely said, the price tag it comes with is expected for the application it was designed for.

performance wise its way overpriced

That depends on what the performance you're looking at for a given task. For the sake of what the Titan V is targeted for (i.e. Deep learning, cloud acceleration, professional rendering), it can be considered a bargain for the time savings it can achieve. Especially when considering that this is operated on a large scale.

so a 2080ti at half the price of a titan V isn't looking so impressive

What kind of statement is that? If a Toyota Corolla had the same performance as a Golf GTI, the news media would go crazy about it because it achieved the same "performance" for half the price.

 

[Shlouski]

No.

I know, you would never agree with me about anything

I didn't say anything that would call the Titan V "expensive"

Sure you did:

The 2080 ti is like a titan V for half the price

Considering the titan v is priced for commercial use, the $3000 price tag is expected.

Two cards with the same performance, but one card is twice as expensive. So it costs more because its for commercial use, this is exactly the reason why its so expensive for what the card is, this is because people are paying for more than just the graphics card when buying commercial cards like these.

That depends on what the performance you're looking at for a given task. For the sake of what the Titan V is targeted for (i.e. Deep learning, cloud acceleration, professional rendering), it can be considered a bargain for the time savings it can achieve. Especially when considering that this is operated on a large scale.

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The 2080 ti is like a titan V for half the price

Then why did you say this above^^, either both cards are alike or they are not, so decide. The reason you initially said they were alike is because I have only ever been referring to rasterization performance:

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it has become clear why nvidia weren't forthcoming about how their new cards performed in traditional rasterisation

So of course I'm still referring to rasterization performance.

What kind of statement is that? If a Toyota Corolla had the same performance as a Golf GTI, the news media would go crazy about it because it achieved the same "performance" for half the price.

The golf gti has, Deep learning, cloud acceleration, professional rendering and that's why its so expensive .

You have again made another uturn, the cards were alike:

The 2080 ti is like a titan V for half the price

Then they weren't alike:

That depends on what the performance you're looking at for a given task. For the sake of what the Titan V is targeted for (i.e. Deep learning, cloud acceleration, professional rendering), it can be considered a bargain for the time savings it can achieve. Especially when considering that this is operated on a large scale.

Now you seem to be suggesting they are alike again:

What kind of statement is that? If a Toyota Corolla had the same performance as a Golf GTI, the news media would go crazy about it because it achieved the same "performance" for half the price.

Lol, you say what kind of statement is that and then come out with this^^ the irony. You bring up commercial gpu's, but you don't seem to understand why they cost so much more, did you not know its normal for consumer cards perform close or even faster than the commercial cards in many different applications? Understand when you buy commercial cards you are not only paying for the card, you are also paying for all the extras and support that comes with them. It is alao because of market segmentation to allow price discrimination. Businesses who make money from work done with these cards have different requirements than gamers. Nvidia and AMD are taking advantage of that by asking them to pay more.

 

[_Kyle_]

https://pcpartpicker.com/blog/156/geforce-rtx-2080ti-benchmarks

PCPP just did some benchmarks. Meh, it's okay. But the price is actually not too much more than the 1080ti for the RTX 2080.

I wonder how they stack up, the 1080ti and RTX 2080.

 

[_Kyle_]

Does anybody know when the 2050, 2060, and 2070 come out? Kinda curious about the 2050 and 2060.

 

[UnholyVision]

Does anybody know when the 2050, 2060, and 2070 come out? Kinda curious about the 2050 and 2060.

Early November is the word on the street. Though the current RTX cards were suppose to come out sooner, but got delayed a week. Then are still sitting in limbo for pre-orders so who knows. (I'm one of those people actually). Maybe late November.

 

[lincsman]

Please let us know Mr. money bags how the 2080 TI does. I started my build 2 years ago, and the I7 6700k is discontinued but I think it will dice it for another 2 years with my 1080 TI. I think I'll leave my rig be until the 3000 series comes out, then just do another build. I might upgrade to 32GB of RAM, maybe replace my 1TB HDD with a 4 or 5 TB, but other than that I think my system will last a long time using a 1440p monitor.

 

[UnholyVision]

Please let us know Mr. money bags how the 2080 TI does.

If you're talking to me then sure thing. At least once they actually send the bloody thing. (Oh and someone is jelly, lol).

Still waiting.
https://i.postimg.cc/pPQdKcWs/Untitled.jpg

I think it will dice it for another 2 years with my 1080 TI

maybe replace my 1TB HDD with a 4 or 5 TB

The 1080Ti is still a great card. I have one in my current machine and same goes for the previous generations. You will be fine for quiet a while. I have a 970 that still plays so many games at max settings.

As far as the HDD goes. My suggestion is grab one of these (Link) then just strip the HDD out. I have actually done this a few times. The drives are quiet good and haven't had a single failure yet.

 

[UnholyVision]

Well I got my card. Finally!!! I don't really like back-plates, but I must say Asus did a pretty good job on it. It'll fit the new PC build i'm putting it in. Waiting on my new case and ram, but going to swap out my GTX 1080Ti for the sake of it soon. Give it a test run and see how the performance compares to it in Steam Proton and native Linux titles.

https://ibb.co/hoNsqA

 

[Darren]

Well I got my card. Finally!!! I don't really like back-plates, but I must say Asus did a pretty good job on it. It'll fit the new PC build i'm putting it in. Waiting on my new case and ram, but going to swap out my GTX 1080Ti for the sake of it soon. Give it a test run and see how the performance compares to it in Steam Proton and native Linux titles.

https://ibb.co/hoNsqA

Embed is broken but links work.

That is a pretty slick backplate. Usually Asus styling is a bit too gaudy for me but that's pretty clean.

 

[UnholyVision]

I like how it's not just a huge block either. It's so dumb when they don't add cut outs. I wish it had more to be honest, but I'll take that over none. Better than it being a complete space heater right, lol.

 

[Harley Ben]

Waiting for the games to be launched with rtx technology. So that we can really put it on test.

 

[beers]

Sooo, anyone interested in buying a couple 2080Tis?

I got a couple for SLI but the Battlefield benchmarks are shitty enough where I just need to recoup some of my kid's lunch money. Kind of an overkill just for the new Assetto Corsa game , but the RTX features are really just more valuable for screenshots I think.

 

[UnholyVision]

Sooo, anyone interested in buying a couple 2080Tis? I got a couple for SLI but the Battlefield benchmarks are shitty enough where I just need to recoup some of my kid's lunch money.

the RTX features are really just more valuable for screenshots I think.

One game and you're running home?

Also you're using it wrong. It's all about Optix. Sweet sweet Blender goodness.

 

[_Kyle_]

Sooo, anyone interested in buying a couple 2080Tis?

I got a couple for SLI but the Battlefield benchmarks are shitty enough where I just need to recoup some of my kid's lunch money. Kind of an overkill just for the new Assetto Corsa game , but the RTX features are really just more valuable for screenshots I think.

I'll trade you my old new 750ti for them, but only if you ship them for free.

 

[Darren]

I'll trade you my old new 750ti for them, but only if you ship them for free.

If we're talking trades I could part with my 1080 for one of them.

 

[_Kyle_]

If we're talking trades I could part with my 1080 for one of them.

I'm quite sure he'd rather have the 750ti.

(I guess you're right Darren, I do use sarcasm quite a bit.)