Order These From Greatest/Least plz

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Big_j said:
I meant to say Turion, even if you still consider that wrong...
That being said, it doesn't really matter what you believe is better, because this is simply my opinion.
I don't trust the benchmarks people do, because My Mac G4 raped my new CoreDuo mac. The G4 was a dual G4 (core duo is dual core, which is supposed to perform better than dual processor), but it had less ram and less clock speed.

I don't personally think Intel dual cores are that good.
Again, it's personall opinion!
We weren't even talking about the Turion, and when did this thread start talking about mobile processors?
 
Ku-sama said:
fanboy...

gaming:
AMD Athlon™64 X2 3800+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
AMD Athlon™64 3500+ CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
Intel® Pentium-D Processor 930 [3.0GHz, Dual-Core, 2x2MB Cache, 800MHz FSB, 64-Bit]
Intel® Pentium-4 Processor 630 [3.0GHz, 2MB Cache, 800MHz FSB, 64-Bit + HT Ready]

all around:
Intel® Pentium-D Processor 930 [3.0GHz, Dual-Core, 2x2MB Cache, 800MHz FSB, 64-Bit]
AMD Athlon™64 X2 3800+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
AMD Athlon™64 3500+ CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
Intel® Pentium-4 Processor 630 [3.0GHz, 2MB Cache, 800MHz FSB, 64-Bit + HT Ready]
Fanboy then you state the same exact order for gaming? He said and asked for gaming.


editness:Didn't see page 2, went stright from 1 to 3, Sorry I didn't see it was already covered.
 
ok, My budget is ok with a 3500+, I just cant afford the dual core right now, its about 140 dollars more, and I've already figured all this up, that I can afford the 3500+ fine, and when more games come out that require the dual, I can upgrade to the dual easily.
 
Big_j said:
we wern't talking about semprons, I was just comparing!

You can't compare a Sempron or a Turion to a Pentium D. And Pentium D's aren't crap. You should learn a bit more about processors before you go making comparisons.
 
my grandma has a pentum d and i played doom 3, guild wars, and half life 2 on it like a champ. I would definately not call them crap, but i do prefer amds.
 
Yeah, all four cpu's listed in this thread will do fine gaming wise at present. I am surprised how many variations there are order wise though. It's not like it's rocket science..what's best for gaming, period. It's almost like this thread became a "what's your favorite cpu" thread.
 
I guess i'll throw im my two cents on my choices.....

Right now:
X2 3800+
Athlon 3500+
Pentium D 930
P4 630

Near future:
X2 3800+
Pentium D 930
Athlon 3500+
P4 630
 
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I just realized I havent said what i thought yet........here we go
athon x2 3800
pentium d
athlon 3500+
pentium 4
lol, but thats just what I think.
 
You can't compare a Sempron or a Turion to a Pentium D. And Pentium D's aren't crap. You should learn a bit more about processors before you go making comparisons.
I'm not comparing a turion to a PD, I'm saying that the differnce between PD and P4 is like the difference between Athlon and Turion.
never mind, I'm not going to get into that.
Again, it's my opinion that the Pentium D is the worst of the four listed!
 
Big_j said:
I'm not comparing a turion to a PD, I'm saying that the differnce between PD and P4 is like the difference between Athlon and Turion.
never mind, I'm not going to get into that.
They are incomparable. A Turion is not designed to be compared with desktop processors.
 
You're done.

Big_j said:
I'm not comparing a turion to a PD, I'm saying that the differnce between PD and P4 is like the difference between Athlon and Turion.
The Turion is a mobile processor, which the Pentium D and Pentium 4 aren't, so you can't compare them like that.

The Pentium D and the Pentium 4 is like the difference between the Athlon 64 X2 and the Athlon 64.

Big_j said:
Again, it's my opinion that the Pentium D is the worst of the four listed!
Would you mind telling me why you would take the Pentium 4 630 over the Pentium D 930? Considering the Pentium D 930 is basically two Pentium 4 630's in one processor package.
 
Me said:
I don't trust the benchmarks people do, because My Mac G4 raped my new CoreDuo mac. The G4 was a dual G4 (core duo is dual core, which is supposed to perform better than dual processor), but it had less ram and less clock speed.

I don't personally think Intel dual cores are that good.
Again, it's personall opinion!
And I do not consider the PD comparable to the Athlon 64 X2
For the last time, it my personall opinion/prefernce!

I'll expalin this for hte last time, it doesn't matter if it's a mobile processor or not. I'm saying that the differnce in performace (on a laptop level) between the Athlon 64 X2 and the Turion64 is like (not comparable to) the differnce between the PD and the P4. I'm not saying that Turion is better than PD or the opposite, I'm not comparing them with each other at all.
To put it simply, I simply don't like and would not buy a PD. If it will make you any happy, drop the subject.
 
The is the second (and last) time I have had to come to this thread to keep people in check.

wicked859 whilst i dont know what the purpose of the thread was I trust that there is enough said to answer your query

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this would help me out a bit, and this would be for gaming so fastest/slowest in gaming.
  1. First up would be the X2-3800 for sure
  2. Next up would be the Athlon64-3500
  3. Then the Dualcore PentiumD 930
  4. Last but not horrible by any means, the Pentium4 630
Now the only changes that might happen are with two and three. The advantage in gaming that the ondie memory controller gives the Athlon64 should be anough to overcome the advantage the PentiumD might having in a dual-core optimized game but that would depend on the game. If I was buying a box for myself I would buy the PentiumD 930 before I buy the 3500 because I plan to use the computer for more than gaming 24x7 and the dualcore will more than make up for any deficiencies (which arent earth shattering) it may have

Easy on the big words.

For gaming only, here is the clear cut list AS OF NOW. When more and more games can utilize dual-cores better, the 3500+ will drop lower
Yeah but what happens if he wants to play dualcore optimized games only?

I know I will probably get flamed for putting the 3500+ on top and ahead of the X2 3800+, but it quite simply is a better/faster processor for gaming
Definitely and arguably rightly so (given dualcore optimizations for videocard drivers and only 200MHz difference for singlecore games).

you didnt say that the 930 wasa good processor
neither did you.
LOL
Nuff said.

Pentium D is Sempron equiviland. It's crap
I would take the time to flame you but then Id have to teach you the basics about computers to start with or else you'd be sitting there wondering what I was talking about as I made fun of you. But I suppose I could do some charity work and tead you some things. First lets take a look at your order and see where you went wrong:
AMD Athlon™64 X2 3800+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
Intel® Pentium-4 Processor 630 [3.0GHz, 2MB Cache, 800MHz FSB, 64-Bit + HT Ready]
AMD Athlon™64 3500+ CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
Intel® Pentium-D Processor 930 [3.0GHz, Dual-Core, 2x2MB Cache, 800MHz FSB, 64-Bit]
Well the X2-3800 at the top is a safe first choice and I might even be convinced if you noted that the Pentium 630 was better than the Athlon64-3500 for gaming simply based on the common misconception about clock speeds. But even accoridng to that logic (which is a fair common mistake) you should have put the PentiumD as second best (or at least ahead of the Athlon64-3500) as it's got a higher Ghz rating). If you need a further explaination about why your ordering was wrong, see the top of my post here. Now to address the silliness which you followed that up with
Pentium D is Sempron equiviland. It's crap
Actually it's not. It's a multicore version of the Pentium4 in that list ... sure in some instances it is a bit slower (due to extra negotiating overhead) but 99% of time it's significantly faster.

I meant to say Turion, even if you still consider that wrong...
Well at least here you're comparing AMD chip to AMD chip so I suppose thats a better comparison however you'd also be mistaken because a 3.0GHz Turion would kick some serious ass.

That being said, it doesn't really matter what you believe is better, because this is simply my opinion.
Ah... the opinion line .. i've heard that defence before. Minor flaw in this case ... you said "Pentium D is Sempron equivalent. It's Crap" (spelling mistakes corrected) ... if if you subsitute what you meant to say, "Turion is Sempron equivalent. It's crap" ... well hmm in either case, neither are opinions, they are both (attempts) at passing facts not opinions. And the fact is, the Turion isnt crap at all.

I don't personally think Intel dual cores are that good.
Again, it's personall opinion!
Now THAT's an opinion! You'll notice that I dont bother attacking this because in fact, it is an opinion (which i disagree with but again, that's an opinion)

I don't trust the benchmarks people do, because My Mac G4 raped my new CoreDuo mac. The G4 was a dual G4 (core duo is dual core, which is supposed to perform better than dual processor), but it had less ram and less clock speed.
Well anyone who thinks a SMT rig is gonna out perform a SMP rig all things equal is a fool to start with, but again, this is a mission of charity, to educate the uneducated. Interesting that you failed to note what you supposedly compared this with and under what circumstances...

we wern't talking about semprons, I was just comparing!
Comparing would fall under the "(attempting) to pass facts" more so than "this is what i think" column.

You can't compare a Sempron or a Turion to a Pentium D.
Sure you can :) Whether it's a meaningul comparison is another thing :)

It's almost like this thread became a "what's your favorite cpu" thread.
hehe glad im not the only one to notice

I'm not comparing a turion to a PD, I'm saying that the differnce between PD and P4 is like the difference between Athlon and Turion.
Again with the (attempt) at passign facts. Lets see just how wrong you are:
  • P4 vs PD .... PD is two P4 dies next to each other ... simple as that, they dont even share a core to core interconnect
  • Athlon and Turion (I'll give u benifit of doubt and assumed you meant Athlon64) ... that would be like comparing a 17 stage chip to a 10 stage chip (as oppposed to the Intel chips which are both the same number of stages) ... and of course you know that the lower the stage count the more effective that chip is ... which is why PentiumMs can crush Athlon64FX chips..... you knew that right?

A Turion is not designed to be compared with desktop processors.
You can compare them.

I'm saying that the differnce in performace (on a laptop level) between the Athlon 64 X2 and the Turion64 is like (not comparable to) the differnce between the PD and the P4
Ok so are you comparing them or not comparing them? ;) Cuz really in either case you're wrong. Damn kid, you really pulled a good one ... given two choices most people only make mistakes 50% of the time, you picked both and managed to get them both wrong.


Now it's closed.
 
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