OSx 86 falling in love

[patrickv]

Ok i know i've never used a real mac, but for some reason am starting to use this more than winXP. I don't know what's so good with a Mac or the interface but now everything i do ,i do on x86, my (home pc -coreduo) has been sleeping for 3 days now (see sig).and i'm running on a celeron since wednesday

anyone with a real Mac can u tell me why is it so addictive ?
as much as i want to travel and buy one i can't for the life of me

 

[PunterCam]

I bought my mac, used OSX for a few weeks, then installed bootcamp and windows and haven't really looked back. For me, osx is clumsy, unpredictable, and ultimately I find it harder to do things. There's no doubt swapping between open screens by clicking the side button on the mouse is lovely, but safari is poor and forgets things randomly, and programs take far to long to load up. I've also had programs freezing for no reason with the 'spinning ****ing disk' sitting there for minutes. Programs like safari, not anything intensive.

I can honestly say I haven't had one crash in windows since I installed it 18 months ago, finally m/s have got it right.

And since vista seems to have many of the nice features osx has I'll be waiting for it to settle down and I'll buy that. Why the **** does it need such huge specs to run though?! Rubbish programming - fit it all on a floppy disk and I'll be impressed

I know I'm used to windows, but OSX is meant to do the simple things well, and it just doesn't.

 

[patrickv]

I bought my mac, used OSX for a few weeks, then installed bootcamp and windows and haven't really looked back. For me, osx is clumsy, unpredictable, and ultimately I find it harder to do things. There's no doubt swapping between open screens by clicking the side button on the mouse is lovely, but safari is poor and forgets things randomly, and programs take far to long to load up. I've also had programs freezing for no reason with the 'spinning ****ing disk' sitting there for minutes. Programs like safari, not anything intensive.

hmm, i do find safari mac good, no problems with it,as i use it more than Firefox,as for programs freezing, none of em so far, only photoshop cs2

And since vista seems to have many of the nice features osx has I'll be waiting for it to settle down and I'll buy that. Why the **** does it need such huge specs to run though?! Rubbish programming - fit it all on a floppy disk and I'll be impressed
I know I'm used to windows, but OSX is meant to do the simple things well, and it just doesn't.

don't bring vista in my thread please, and it depends on the person using it or maybe u can't do the task you want, i know i can.

 

[PunterCam]

Yeah that'll be it, I have to learn to not make it crash.

I've used osx loads, but it's just not as good. It waves at you, smiles, and offers to do everything under the sun for you, except the only thing you want it to do. And as for you being able to do tasks on it, good for you, so can I. And then it freezes up, or decides my printer isn't actually there. Aint that just great. And all the problems I've experienced over a number of imacs, as well as my pro.

If it was stable I'd forgive it, but xp just seems better now. And as for not mentioning vista well, it's apples latest rival, and osx can't keep with xp on day to day things.

 

[jmedina]

Macs are good for somethings. I would take OS X over Vista any day. But, as far as compatibility goes I think windows wins that.

 

[patrickv]

I've used osx loads, but it's just not as good. It waves at you, smiles, and offers to do everything under the sun for you

lol, what your mac has hands now ?

And then it freezes up, or decides my printer isn't actually there. Aint that just great. And all the problems I've experienced over a number of imacs, as well as my pro.

wow, and to think you use real Macs, the only freeze i saw was CS2 that is all, you must have some sort of curse when you lay your hands on macs

and osx can't keep with xp on day to day things.

thats just your personal opinion,probably you're overlooking stuffs, cause i get through the day with x86

Macs are good for somethings. I would take OS X over Vista any day. But, as far as compatibility goes I think windows wins that.

yeah you have a point, i've just installed gimp and been using that since, cs2 has issues, bu im using it more than xp

 

[vonfeldt7]

I want to try a mac sometime..I think they're pretty cool...(although I wouldnt be able to live with myself after buying one...since I build a PC for a lot cheaper)

 

[patrickv]

(although I wouldnt be able to live with myself after buying one...since I build a PC for a lot cheaper)

i can't seem to understand why people don't like macs, i mean what's wrong with em ?
if you're IT you shouldn't have any preferences for pc or architecture types, you service all of em.
if i could buy a mac i would right now

 

[BluePlum]

Everyones differnt and everyone likes differn't things. ANd more people like windows so screw the differnt thing your wired

 

[patrickv]

i highly suggest you don't barge in my thread as this will result in me calling a mod
this discussion was going nicely till u came along, u just had to ruin it did u

 

[Kesava]

ah dont you just love blueplums input? always worth it

 

[PunterCam]

Curse it may be, but I'm just giving you my input. I'm not so certain the intel macs are quite there yet - I occasionally use a G4 and it seems more 'solid'. Things just work, windows open instantly, you never think 'what's it doing now?'. Outright speeds may be down, but maybe they still react quicker, I dunno.

I honestly think that windows is the more stable o/s at the moment. I own a mac, there is no bias here.

 

[vonfeldt7]

Curse it may be, but I'm just giving you my input. I'm not so certain the intel macs are quite there yet - I occasionally use a G4 and it seems more 'solid'. Things just work, windows open instantly, you never think 'what's it doing now?'. Outright speeds may be down, but maybe they still react quicker, I dunno.

I honestly think that windows is the more stable o/s at the moment. I own a mac, there is no bias here.

Isn't this why most people like Macs? Because their OS's are [supposedly] more stable than Windows, and everything "Just Works"??

Maybe I'm wrong...it's obviously not the hardware specs that they're after...

 

[patrickv]

ah dont you just love blueplums input? always worth it

yeah, i can only imagine what he will say next

I occasionally use a G4 and it seems more 'solid'. Things just work, windows open instantly, you never think 'what's it doing now?'. Outright speeds may be down, but maybe they still react quicker, I dunno.
I honestly think that windows is the more stable o/s at the moment. I own a mac, there is no bias here.

well from what i've heard, real macs are hell fast and in some videos i've seen it has been proven performance, x86 is decent enough to use though

Isn't this why most people like Macs? Because their OS's are [supposedly] more stable than Windows, and everything "Just Works"??

you say supposedly ? come on, macs is far more stable that windows face it.
no and i don't think everything works, maybe out of the box they do mostly all stuff (burn dvd's etc etc), but you wil need third party software to do some stuff.

 

[PunterCam]

What to you base this 'osx more stable than windows' argument on? Mac owners opinions? Intel based macs just don't 'feel' right - not in the same way the g4's and g5's did, it's hard to explain. Their outright speed is not up for debate - the new intel macs are faster than the equivalent ibm powered mac - it's the time it takes to load something like safari; it's still quicker on a g4 (in my experience). Why? Don't know. It's like the os isn't quite gelling with intels hardware...

The great thing about macs is the software they come with - idvd, iphoto and imovie are great programs. Simple to use, but quite flexible. Garageband, for a 'free' piece of software is fantastic too. Download openoffice and you're away.

In theory they should be far more stable as apple know the exact hardware they're writing the os for and there are very few viruses out there that affect macs. I'm desperate to adopt it, but until I'm confident in it's stability I'll wait.

If x86 is working for you then stick with it - build your next pc to a high spec and tri boot with it, xp and vista. I love my mac pro, but now I'm thinking slightly more clearly than I was when I bought it (ie, less drunk) I don't know if I coul recommend it for the price. There is no doubt it's a thing of beauty though

 

[tlarkin]

Man oh man.....I love uneducated people who just spread ignorance....

First of all, OS X is not windows, so don't compare the two. 99% of the time anyone switches from Windows to OS X, Linux, or Unix they go back to windows because they never take the time to fully understand how the other OS works.

Having professionally worked with almost every platform out there (Unix, Linux, OS X, Windows, and Novell) I can honestly say that in my experience Macs and OS X have always ran better than the windows counter parts. I have fewer broken macs to deal with, and I have less problems with spyware and viruses that I have with Windows.

Almost all your basic problem with a mac can be fixed by snuffing out corrupted user preferences. If you have a problem with in OS X, create a new user account and see if the problem reproduces in that new user account. If it doesn't, it is a user level preference (.plist file) which can be simply deleted and you are back in business.

OS X x86 runs like crap compared to actually running OS X on a Mac, so you will be even more blown away.

Another huge misconception is that hardware specs are more expensive on a Mac, which again, is not true. I challenge anyone on this forum to make a PC mirrored to the specs of an entry Mac Pro desktop and do it for under $3,000. The people that scream that its over priced and can be built for half the cost are talking out their ass and have no idea what they are talking about in the first place.

The only thing you could maybe build spec for spec would be an iMac, and remember that those come with built in 20 and 24 " flat LED back lit flat screen monitors. So you'd have to include that in your build. I think maybe a PC could be built like an iMac for close to the same price with all the features and benefits it gets out of the box, however a Mac Pro, there is no way. I have tried. The cheapest I could find the Xeon processors in the entry mac pro were $750 each off of newegg, so thats $1500 in processors right there.

 

[patrickv]

First of all, OS X is not windows, so don't compare the two. 99% of the time anyone switches from Windows to OS X, Linux, or Unix they go back to windows because they never take the time to fully understand how the other OS works.

tlarkins got my back.

Having professionally worked with almost every platform out there (Unix, Linux, OS X, Windows, and Novell) I can honestly say that in my experience Macs and OS X have always ran better than the windows counter parts. I have fewer broken macs to deal with, and I have less problems with spyware and viruses that I have with Windows.

yeah that' something most people doesn't seem to get in their heads

OS X x86 runs like crap compared to actually running OS X on a Mac, so you will be even more blown away.

haha no way men,while you do have a solid point, i have to disagree with you,osx 86 (in my sig) runs good,it won't ever run like a MAC that's for sure. There are lags yes,that is true,but i know what causes them so i avoid using whoever causes it. i dunno if it varies from hardware to hardware but mine is ok

 

[patrickv]

anyway this thread was about what is good about a Mac and what makes some people love it ?
and now it's actually a debate !!

mac users where art thou

 

[Matt_91]

I wish we had a Mac, I've used OS x86, but it didn't know how to shut down my computer. I've used the school Macs and I really like em, they seemed a lot faster, I guess it's probably also to do with the fact that the hardware has been matched in such a way that it runs at it's optimal performance.

 

[tlarkin]

Sorry, OS X on a Mac > than on a PC. It is written and optimized for that set of hardware, so it runs way better. OS X x86 may run better than windows on a PC but that doesn't mean it runs better than OS X on a Mac.

I however, have not used OS X x86 in a long time, so it could have gotten better.