Overclocking : restarts.. freezes.. ????? HELP

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oscaryu1

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I cannot overclock my computer over 3.03GHz before it won't want to start up again:

Pentium 4 2.8Ghz with Hyperthreading Technology
PC Chips motherboard Socket 478
Spire cooling fan, STOCK (non-intel certified)
Spire Blackfin III Case
3 case fans , 2x 80mm, 1x 50mm (from a CPU heatsink)...
600w (or 500w i forgot) POWORK power supply...
Geforce 4 MX D video card....
DVD drive...
CD 52x drive...
floppy drive..
seagate 120GB ATA HDD...


can any1 point out why it wont overclock well? the PC Wizard 2007 benchmarking gave it a 2220 score or soemthing.. thanks for ANY replies :D
 
Sounds like the cpu's multiplier is somewhat locked there. The faster the default clock speed the less you can generally move a cpu up. This is the same on AMD models too. One example was the old Barton cored XP2500 that would crank out well on the old Socket A cpu while the XP3200 barely moved from 2.21 to 2.3ghz. The XP2500 would go from 1.8 or slightly above to 2.3+ ghz. In a line of models each one is set to a higher clock speed for default.

There's an apparent max speed when trying to oc each model. You simply find your max where the system remains stable. You could bring up the fsb while lowering the cpu speed slightly. "Tweaking your system" is the general term for this. Make sure you keep the temps down too. An overheated cpu will cause a long list of problems.
 
Once you get familiar with the memory clock or timings and the find the listing for the cpu you usually can highlight that and press the enter to see a menu. Somewhare there is the "user defined" item that you choose over auto. But ocing is no game when you first start out!

Once you start bringing anything up your temps will climb too! OCing stresses hardwares. This is why taking things in little baby steps can prevent real headaches later. Adequate cooling is the one big item to add to the list as well.
 
Intels Computers, When become unstable, Clock Down. thats Still quite and Improvement, i know my EX Server would only allow a .3 of a Ghz Overclock.
 
PC eye said:
Once you start bringing anything up your temps will climb too! OCing stresses hardwares. This is why taking things in little baby steps can prevent real headaches later. Adequate cooling is the one big item to add to the list as well.
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Actually the temps will only rise when you bring up the voltages.. adjustings the FSB or HTT will not affect temperature at all. The rest is true however, Start out slow, use a divider on the RAM if your OC gets too high, Etc. You'll get used to it soon enough.
 
hermeslyre said:
Actually the temps will only rise when you bring up the voltages.. adjustings the FSB or HTT will not affect temperature at all. The rest is true however, Start out slow, use a divider on the RAM if your OC gets too high, Etc. You'll get used to it soon enough.
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Actually, PC_Eye was right. Increases in speed increase temperature, just not as much as voltages. I believe the formula was FSB*(Voltage squared).
 
yes, PC_Eye is right. ive seen it happen. well i only have thesse menues: STANDARD CMOS FEATURES, ADVANCED BIOS FEATURES, ADVANCED CHIPSET FEATURES, INTEGRATED PERIPHERALS, POWER MANAGAMENT SETUP, PNP/PCI CONFIGURATIONS, PC HEALTH STATUS, FREQUENCY/VOLTAGE CONTROL, LOAD FAIL SAFE DEFAULTS, LOAD OPTIMIZED DEFAULTS, SET SUPERVISOR PASSWORD, SET USER PASSWORD, SAVE AND EXIT SETUP, EXIT WITHOUT SAVING.


now in which of those buttons is the FSB and oc' stuff
 
Overclocking without raising the voltage will raise temps. alittle. But raising the voltage is what really jumps the temps. up to have to keep a eye on it.

Look under your Advance Chipset Features and Frequence/Voltage Control
 
ADVANCED CHIPSET FEATURES :
DRAM CLOCK/DRIVE CONTROL
AGP & P2P BRIDGE CONTROL
CPU & PCI BUS CONTROL
SYSTEM BIOS CACHEABLE
INIT DISPLAY FIRST

FREQUENCY/VOLTAGE:
AUTO DETECT PCI CLK
SPREAD SPECTRUM
CPU CLOCK

on cpu clock the regular was 200.. i have gotten it up the 221..

QUESTIONS 1: where do i increase voltage?
2: at 221 clock, when i play NFS underg. 2 and restart the compy it wont boot again unless i shut it down and turn it back on... too much OCing?
3. are copper heatsinks good?
4. should hyperthreading be enabled in ocing?
 
Review of the board's user manual in the bios setup section will usually show where the various settings are. What make and board are you running would be the question here? The Advanced Chipset section is the usual place to bring up the user defined and other menus for manual settings.

For question #3 many are taking a look at the Zalman CNPS 9500 with a copper base as well as the larger copper fins. You can look that over at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118223
 
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