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TheFruitThatAteItself

TheFruitThatAteItself

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Hi i'm trying to find some good LEGAL p2p/filesharing (same thing?) software that won't screw up my computer. does anyone have a good suggestion for a poor sap like me?

p.s. if at all possible, i want it to be free
 
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I download music and movies.

The absolute best resource for good/underground/obscure music is SoulSeek (www.slsknet.org).

If you just want the Top 40 junk, I suggest going to SoulSeek and downloading a hacked free copy of KaZaAlite, which is ideal for that sort of thing and doesn't come with a zillion corrupt files and viruses like the regular KaZaA (www.kazaa.com) or WinMX (www.winmx.com) tend to.

If you want movies, I just recently discovered eMule (www.emule-projects.net), which is marvellous.

All of these programs are entirely legal, but obviously the duplication and free distribution of copyrighted material through them is frowned upon, to say the least - but it's pretty much all they're used for.

I find that SoulSeek, KaZaAlite and eMule collectively have me covered, whatever I'm looking for.
 
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TheFruitThatAteItself said:
thanks alot. i was hoping i wouldn't get some assholeish response
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THERE YOU GO:


TheFruitThatAteItself said:
p.s. if at all possible, i want it to be free
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"well duhh... I mean, paying for stuff ??? pfff... that was so the 90's"

oh, wait.. no, people still wanted everything for free back then...


Hey, here is a brainteaser:



J

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get one. Then you can pay for things you want and become a productive member of the world economy ...instead of helping to ruin it.
 
TheFruitThatAteItself said:
at the age of 14, it's hard to find a job in the middle of the country.
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hey good point.... same brainteaser can be asked of your parents...


I know when I was 14 I wanted a brand new bike. But I didnt go to the local bike shop, smash the front window and grab the nicest BMX bike and ride off into the sunset. I did chore after chore until my parents thought I deserved that BMX bike.... ended up messing up my right knee.. but thats neither here nor there...
 
yeah i guess.... do you really think making this one kid stop from downloading music will make a difference? maybe a pack of guitar strings for this band i'm taking music from... but not much.
 
TheFruitThatAteItself said:
yeah i guess.... do you really think making this one kid stop from downloading music will make a difference?
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Yes I do. Lets up the antes a little bit.

Lets say you go into a grocery store and steal a candy bar. “its only a candy bar” … how about you see a brand new Porsche… lets steal it! “its only a car”. How about this huge house… lets break in and steal stuff! “Its only a few tv’s, an xbox and Dell computer”


There are people in this world who do not understand this set of principles and values I am talking about.

Its easy to rationalize and justify stealing something so “innocent” and miniscuel as some music from some musician who gets MILLIONS of dollars… but it’s a mentality that does not end with free music. By nature when a human being gets away with something, it’s a natural reaction to WANT MORE.. Do you want to live your life getting the things you want by stealing them?

Maybe when you are old enough to get a job and work hour after hour at a horrendous job, and see your co-workers breaking their backs to keep the electricity on and the water running… working 8 hours a day, 5 days a week to buy their kids a candy bar, a car, a tv, xbox.. a Dell computer.. OR a music cd… you too will understand the values I am talking about.
 
Interesting thread, been hearing these arguments since 1999...lol That goes a ways back. I use Limewire personally... lol
 
Sfr

SFR, yeah i know, i'm just some kid... but i still have the sense to know that filesharing isn't going to lead to a life of crime. if you ask me you have a pretty farfetched theory, but hey, this is just some kid talking.
 
SFR said:
Its easy to rationalize and justify stealing something so “innocent” ... as some music...
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"Filesharing isn't stealing, by definition."

Stealing is where I take it from you and you don't have it anymore. Not where I copy something that you created and hold the intellectual rights to.
 
DK999k

dk999k i downloaded Shareaza!2 but it is very sluggish in downloading files. I have DSL right now, but it is wirelessly connected to our office which is a building next to our house. So for my connection i chose LAN. I don't know if that matters. I guess i'm just wondering why it's so slow... any input would be great
 
Pretorius said:
"Filesharing isn't stealing, by definition."

Stealing is where I take it from you and you don't have it anymore. Not where I copy something that you created and hold the intellectual rights to.
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If I request payment for you to use it and you do not pay me, then yes, it is stealing.

At some point the music which you claim to only me sharing had to have illegally been transfered from a cd to a computer. That is where the theft technically occured... so in affect you are an accessory to the theft.
 
SFR said:
If I request payment for you to use it and you do not pay me, then yes, it is stealing.

At some point the music which you claim to only me sharing had to have illegally been transfered from a cd to a computer. That is where the theft technically occured... so in affect you are an accessory to the theft.
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As I already said: many, many artists rely on filesharing to become known. They sell their music, but they fully advocate its free distribution through shareware. Am I 'stealing' from them? There are entire underground movements in independent rock, electronica and hip-hop that would never and could never have taken off without filesharers.

These people do not share your views. They do not see the distribution of their art as a 'theft' of their potential income.

So if these unknown artists don't prtest, who does? Sadly, the people who don't need any more money. The people who could live comfortably for the rest of their lives without selling another record. The people who clearly have no idea what it means to be an artist. The people who wouldn't do what they do for free, for the love of it. The people to whom 'art' is nothing but a meal-ticket. I have no qualms about downloading their music, the marginal amount of it that I do find appealling. If I couldn't download it? I wouldn't buy it, I'd do without. No one loses anything - they gain artistic exposure (whether it means anything to them or not), and I gain some music. There is no potential purchase lost, because there is no potential purchase to begin with.

FYI: It is perfectly legal to transfer music from a CD to a computer, all attempts to resist this by the music industry have failed - a buyer has the legal right to create backup copies of his purchase. So, no, the 'theft' does not occur between CD and computer, and if it is indeed 'theft', and I am, as you say, an accessory to it, why then can I not be charged with a crime?
 
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Pretorius said:
As I already said: many, many artists rely on filesharing to become known. They sell their music, but they fully advocate its free distribution through shareware. Am I 'stealing' from them? There are entire underground movements in independent rock, electronica and hip-hop that would never and could never have taken off without filesharers.

FYI: It is perfectly legal to transfer music from a CD to a computer, all attempts to resist this by the music industry have failed - a buyer has the legal right to create backup copies of his purchase. So, no, the 'theft' does not occur between CD and computer, and if it is indeed 'theft', and I am, as you say, an accessory to it, why then can I not be charged with a crime?
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First of all I am not talking about legal filesharing. I am only speaking of the illegal kind. Remember the free Napster?

And the only time it is legal to copy music from a CD to a computer is if you are going to be using it for private use and YOU purchased the CD legally. Have you ever read the FBI warning at the beginning of a VHS or DVD movie? You can do what you want with it privately but as soon as it become a public thing, making copies for other people, charging people to watch it etc.. it becomes illegal.

It is besides the point to talk about bands and independent music that ALLOW you to listen and share their music. I am speaking only of music and programs that are illegal to share.
 
SFR said:
First of all I am not talking about legal filesharing. I am only speaking of the illegal kind. Remember the free Napster?

And the only time it is legal to copy music from a CD to a computer is if you are going to be using it for private use and YOU purchased the CD legally. Have you ever read the FBI warning at the beginning of a VHS or DVD movie? You can do what you want with it privately but as soon as it become a public thing, making copies for other people, charging people to watch it etc.. it becomes illegal.

It is besides the point to talk about bands and independent music that ALLOW you to listen and share their music. I am speaking only of music and programs that are illegal to share.
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The original Napster was a database, hosting copyrighted material for free download. P2P programs are not illegal, there is no one to prosecute and no one can be charged with a crime. That's why the music industry is spending billions on scare tactics, suing filesharers and the like.

There is no music that is illegal to share. I'm not sure if you're aware of Anticon (an experimental hip-hop label), who owe their existence to the internet, message boards and filesharing. Their most famous artist, Sole, recently leaked his new album onto SoulSeek - it comes out to purchase in February. That music is no more or less copyrighted than Metallica's. The difference is that Metallica take issue with their music being heard for free, Sole doesn't. Can I be prosecuted for sharing either? No. Is one theft when the other is not? Hardly, the same legalities apply to both. It is very much relevent to talk about bands and artists that allow you to download and share their music for free.
 
If you live in the US it is illegal to share copyrighted material such as movies, music, and software. Regardless of what you have heard, you can be prosecuted for sharing anthing that is copyrighted.
It is however, legal to copy non-copyrighted material (obviously), this is mainly freeware and independant films/music that choose not to copyright their material.
 
Cromewell said:
If you live in the US it is illegal to share copyrighted material such as movies, music, and software. Regardless of what you have heard, you can be prosecuted for sharing anthing that is copyrighted.
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No you can't. That's why the RIAA is spending ridiculous amounts of money suing filesharers; if it was illegal, they could just inform the authorities and have those people arrested at no expense. There's never been a case of someone being criminally prosecuted for sharing music.
 
If you read a Cd label on any that you have purchased you will note that it states:

Unauthorised copying, public performance, broadcasting, hiring or rental of this recording is prohibited.

This is the basis of the copywrite law.
 
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