PC build help

Discussion in 'Desktop Computers' started by gelo3iverson, Sep 23, 2018.

  1. gelo3iverson

    gelo3iverson Member

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    I'm about to buy a new PC, I need some advice before I go buy one.


    My choices are between the Ryzen 3 2200G and the Intel i3-8100, with 1x8 GB RAM.

    Soon, I'm going to upgrade my RAM to 2x8 GB RAM. I am also planning to save up for a GTX 1050 Ti (might take a couple months)

    Which should I buy from these two CPUs considering my situation?
    I need specific comparisons/differences.

    Thank you.
     
  2. beers

    beers Moderator Staff Member

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    What's the rest of your build going to look like? What budget are you working with?

    A 2200g with only one stick is going to run poorly.
     
  3. gelo3iverson

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    Will an Intel i3 8100 with H310 motherboard run good with 1x8 GB RAM?

    My Hard Drives are a bit old and used, and I'm planning to add in a 500 W PSU
     
  4. beers

    beers Moderator Staff Member

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    If you only have integrated graphics for the moment it will suck for games.
     
  5. gelo3iverson

    gelo3iverson Member

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    Will probably take 5-8 months for saving up for a 1050 Ti.
     
  6. Deerling7

    Deerling7 Active Member

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    Get dual channel 2x4 sticks and get a 2200G, then add a 1050ti later.
     
  7. UnholyVision

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    I would second what Deerling7 is saying. However, get the highest speed you can afford for ram. APU's tend to do a little better with faster memory. Also, what OS are you going for and if Windows be sure to factor in the price. Personally I would suggest using a GNU/Linux distro, Perhaps even just as a starter to save for the Windows OS and video card. If you don't just fall in love with GNU/Linux. :)

    I actually have two AMD Ryzen 2200G machines using Arch Linux and they use non-proprietary drivers like a champ. AMD's opensource driver is quiet amazing now and can even run somethings a little smoother than Nvidia. It's up or down in some cases, but from my test it can even run some applications better in WINE. Specially now that we have DXVK it's crazy what you can get running to near Windows performance. Of course there are some downfalls so I don't want it to come off as if I am saying an APU is going to work for all your games. I would highly suggest a dedicated GPU over an APU any day.
     
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  8. gelo3iverson

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    Update: I bought the Intel i3 8100, since many told me if I were to buy a graphics card soon, then I should stick with the i3 8100.
     
  9. Darren

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    Well. If it's gonna take you 5-8 months to get a GPU I'd argue this was a pretty big mistake since the onboard GPU on the Ryzen crushes the Intel.
     
  10. Shlouski

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    Ouch 5-8 months for the gpu, agreed with Darren I would have gone for the ryzen build. I guess a good option now would be to look for a second hand gpu, because that Intel will make you go blind.
     
  11. gelo3iverson

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    With my situation, should I get the 1050 Ti or the 1060 3GB?

    Will 1060 3GB bottleneck the i3 8100?
     
  12. Deerling7

    Deerling7 Active Member

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    The 1050ti would be a better option. It benefits from the extra gig of VRAM quite a bit.
     
  13. gelo3iverson

    gelo3iverson Member

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    Thank you, Mr. Deerling7.

    I'm still accepting some suggestions if someone will maybe want to suggest.
    I'll make up my mind soon.


    EDIT:

    Which parts should I buy first?

    PSU, casing, GPU?
    My current PSU is quite old, my casing is small, and I have the Intel UHD 630 graphics.
     
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2018
  14. UnholyVision

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    I would say go for the 1060. If you're not playing at higher resolutions than 1080p 3GB on a card is nothing to scoff at. Once you start hitting into the higher textures for larger resolutions is when a cards ram really comes into play. Yet if the solution was to do higher resolutions with fair detail, I would just save up and upgrade your selection. Considering you're waiting five to eight months anyway.

    Now the what to buy first. Do you have a proper PSU that will power this whole computer? If not I would grab that first.
     
  15. Deerling7

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    It depends on the PSU if you should replace it. What model and how long has it been running?

    The casing really is personal preference. Is there a form factor you desire? Window or no window? Etc.
     
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2018
  16. gelo3iverson

    gelo3iverson Member

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    I checked the PSU and it says "Neutron Electron ATX-700W"
     
  17. Deerling7

    Deerling7 Active Member

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    It's enough wattage, but it being generic is worrisome.
     
  18. johnb35

    johnb35 Administrator Staff Member

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    That unit actually only outputs 400 watts. Would actually think about getting a better one before adding a video card.
     
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  19. gelo3iverson

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    Can someone help me and find a good budget PSU?
     

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