PCI Express 3.0???

Psychobob777

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Hey guys, I was Wondering about the Radeon HD 7970. It says it requires PCI Express 3.0 but I can't seem to find a motherboard with a slot for it Unless they just go in the 2.0 slots (with an adapter maybe) Could anybody fill me in on what PCI Express 3.0 is? Thank you!
 
PCI express cards are all backwards compatible. You don't NEED a 3.0 slot (plus they're not out yet).
 
Well whats the point of saying 3.0 then surely there must be some advantage to having a 7970 in a 3.0 slot rather than a 2.0 or 2.1
 
One day PCI Express 3.0 will be available on consumer motherboards, it's just not out yet. Although the 7970 is designed to take advantage of PCI Express 3.0 when it comes out, but it will run just fine in a PCI Express 2.0 slot. You just gotta wait for PCI Express 3.0, it will come one day....
 
Oh okay gotcha, I wasn't aware that the technology wasn't out yet. On Newegg it just said (out of stock) so I just assumed they were so awesome that everyone was buying them up (or they were recalled) Anyway thanks for the information!
 
Here is the info I've gathered on PCIe 3.0

PCIe 2.0 delivers 5 GT/s, but uses an 8b/10b encoding scheme that results in a 20 percent ((10-8)/10) overhead on the raw bit rate. PCIe 3.0 removes the requirement for 8b/10b encoding, and instead uses a technique called "scrambling" that applies a known binary polynomial to a data stream in a feedback topology. Because the scrambling polynomial is known, the data can be recovered by running it through a feedback topology using the inverse polynomial.[20] and also uses a 128b/130b encoding scheme, reducing the overhead to approximately 1.5% ((130-128)/130), as opposed to the 20% overhead of 8b/10b encoding used by PCIe 2.0. PCIe 3.0's 8 GT/s bit rate effectively delivers double PCIe 2.0 bandwidth. PCI-SIG expects the PCIe 3.0 specifications to undergo rigorous technical vetting and validation before being released to the industry. This process, which was followed in the development of prior generations of the PCIe Base and various form factor specifications, includes the corroboration of the final electrical parameters with data derived from test silicon and other simulations conducted by multiple members of the PCI-SIG.
 
The 7970 is so fast it has no problem maxing things on pci-e 2.0, but when doing professional things like 3d modeling, it actually will perform better on 3.0. With the professional stuff there is more to process at the same time so 3.0's higher memory bandwidth which allows more information to transfer through the socket at once is used where games aren't as detailed as that so they don't benefit from it.
 
Hey guys, I was Wondering about the Radeon HD 7970. It says it requires PCI Express 3.0 but I can't seem to find a motherboard with a slot for it Unless they just go in the 2.0 slots (with an adapter maybe) Could anybody fill me in on what PCI Express 3.0 is? Thank you!
It doesn't need a 3.0 slot, it would just be better if it was in a 3.0 slot.
The 3.0 just has higher bandwidth than the 2.1 and 2.0 PCIe slot.
 
I don't think the 7970 will use all of a x16 2.0 slot. It just gives headroom to the future.

like i said, i n gaming no, but it actually does in prefession applications like 3d modeling, not sure of the gain but i want to say it was somewhere around 3 or 5 %, not much, but better is better.
 
PCI express cards are all backwards compatible. You don't NEED a 3.0 slot (plus they're not out yet).

PCIE 3.0 is indeed out there. But a PCIE 2.1/2.0 has enough bandwidth to run a 7970.
The advantage of 3.0 is that you'll be capable of running quad crossfire/sli in x4 slots because of the improved bandwidth, as opposed to the required x8 for PCIE 2

If your motherboard has a PCIE 2 x16 (which they pretty much all do) it can run a 7970
 
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