Pentium 4 Vs. Celeron

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Ok here's my situation. I have two computers, one is a (Gateway) Pentium 4 1.8 ghz, and the other is a (Dell) Celeron 2.4 ghz. My question is, which one is better? Celeron is older technology right? Aren't Pentium 4's supposed to be faster/more reliable?

The reason I want to know is, I play several games, and I want to hook my good video card to the better system. The Celeron seems a bit "shifty" to me, I don't know it just seems wierd (It could be the fact that its a new computer). Thanks.
 
I have two computers, one is a (Gateway) Pentium 4 1.8 ghz, and the other is a (Dell) Celeron 2.4 ghz. My question is, which one is better? Celeron is older technology right? Aren't Pentium 4's supposed to be faster/more reliable?
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Lets get the specs for these....Questions 101

The Celeron is similar to a PIII.
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1. Even though its most likely a Pentium4 based celeron
2. PIII architecture at 2.4GHz = OMG
 
Praetor said:
1. Even though its most likely a Pentium4 based celeron
2. PIII architecture at 2.4GHz = OMG
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Well i didnt mean that it is a PIII, what i meant was that the Celeron 2.4Ghz performs about the same as a PIII 2.4Ghz (if there was one), since a P4 based Celeron would be comparable in terms of specs to a PIII.
 
Well i didnt mean that it is a PIII, what i meant was that the Celeron 2.4Ghz performs about the same as a PIII 2.4Ghz (if there was one), since a P4 based Celeron would be comparable in terms of specs to a PIII.
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I know you didnt say that ... maybe i should elaborate

You said
The Celeron is similar to a PIII.
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We know it's NOT a PIII or even PIII based. In fact we know it's P4 based. Now the most we can infer from this is that you're suggesting it's performance is like a PIII running at 2.4Ghz which was in fact, what you said. Now we know that PIII architecture, running at 2.4GHz is insanely powerful, hence the comment
PIII architecture at 2.4GHz = OMG
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At which point your first stament

The P4 would be better
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Would be incorrect.

:)

Leaving logic for a moment, we cant comment exactly on which is better than which since we dont know what cores are involved
 
Ok I got the CPU-Z program, here are the specs for my P4, I don't know exactly what you need, but here's some of the info (I'll get my Celeron in a minute):


Core Speed: 1800.0 MHz
Multiplier: x 18.0
FSB 100.0 MHz
Bus Speed: 400.0 MHz
Package: mPGA-478
Family: F
Model: 1
Instructions: MMX, SSE, SSE2
 
Celeron Specs:

Core Speed: 2.392.3 MHz
Multiplier: x 24.0
FSB: 99.7 MHz
Bus Speed: 398.7 MHz
Package: mPGA-478
Family: F
Model: 2
Instructions: MMX, SSE, SSE2

EDIT: In case it matters, the Celeron is currently sharing ram with integrated video, while the P4 has a separate card.
 
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Even though the 2.39 celeron is faster than the 1.8 P4, IMO, the 1.8 would be better. I've found out that the celerons take longer to load things and are a bit choppy in video and other things. I know of a neighbors PIII 600Mhz that was faster than my son's Hp running a 1.3 ghz celeron. That thing too forever to do anything even cleanly reinstalled.
 
The p4 is better, IMHO. I downloaded and installed halo demo on a fresh install of xp with a celeron and was averaging 8fps. Then switched out the celeron for a p4, I averaged 15 fps. Both the celeron and the pentium where at 2.5ghz. And a celeron D is worse, 4fps. :)
 
i would think the pentium 4 would be better then the celeron. even if the celeron has a higher clockspeed it doesnt mean anything.
 
@StarwarsMan: as per my original question, what cores are involved? All these comments about which is better than which is based on nothing since well we dont know what chips are involved (which begs the question: what technical information are responses based on?)

Also to directly answer your own question, why not just do benchmarks with the two chips? :) You'd get a literal answer pretty quick

I've found out that the celerons take longer to load things and are a bit choppy in video and other things
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They do? ;)
 
Ok, I'll try to get a benchmark program. Also, how do I find out which chip I am using? Sorry to ask so many questions, but this is new territory to me.
 
There should be something in cpuz that says codename, that should tell you what chip you are using, or the codename for it anyway.
 
yea, the celeron is probably in a better system with more ram a newer socket (maybe) and faster hard drives. wether the cpu is better or not who knows... but id bet ANYTHING a p3 at 2ghz would beat a p4 at 2.53ghz.
PIII>P4 no doubt. theyre bringing P3 architecture back to the desktop btw, and pentium m IS pentium 3 architecture.
 
Also, how do I find out which chip I am using?
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If you dont know which chip is in the box then how did you post
I have two computers, one is a (Gateway) Pentium 4 1.8 ghz, and the other is a (Dell) Celeron 2.4 ghz.
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;)

Ohh i get it... codename ... look in CPUz, where it says "code"

PIII>P4 no doubt.
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Thats a bit broad.
 
ok well hopefully I can set you guys traight as to where celeron's come from (assuming I wasn't misinformed). During the manufacturing process, many things don't come out just perfectly. When there are slight issues with a processor, Intel basically "shuts down" the parts that don't work on a P4 assuming the problem can be shut off, and rebadges it as a celeron, I don't exactly know how this process works, but it's probably easier to describe in the terms of video cards because the same concept applies for pixel pipelines. If during the processing of a 16 pipeline card, one of the pipelines didn't come out right, the company turns off 4 pipelines (they're grouped in 4's) in which the bad pipeline was included and sell the card as a different model with 12 pipelines. Hence why you can unlock shut off pipelines in some circumstances (don't think you'd want to do this with processors though).
 
Starwarsman said:
Ok here's my situation. I have two computers, one is a (Gateway) Pentium 4 1.8 ghz, and the other is a (Dell) Celeron 2.4 ghz. My question is, which one is better? Celeron is older technology right? Aren't Pentium 4's supposed to be faster/more reliable?

The reason I want to know is, I play several games, and I want to hook my good video card to the better system. The Celeron seems a bit "shifty" to me, I don't know it just seems wierd (It could be the fact that its a new computer). Thanks.
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The p4 has fewer cycles, but doing more work per cycle, where the celeron has more cycles but is doing less per cycle.

So you choose which one is best for you more cycles or more work per cycle.;)
 
Not in this case, I would consider a Northwood Celeron to be equal to a Willamette P4 even though it has less cache. The Celeron is actaully using newer technology than your P4
theyre bringing P3 architecture back to the desktop btw, and pentium m IS pentium 3 architecture.
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Actually the PIII is what's called P6 architecture and P4s use NetBurst
 
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