Please help - advice on building cheap computer

Noobo-k

New Member
Hello one and all,

I have a got a really old computer and have started to notice a few problems in terms of speed.

I would like to buy a really high spec computer but, in light of the new i5 coming out, I shall be waiting until next year now for reviews on the CPU and the new mobos.

I have decided to build a budget computer for the time being and then plug it up to my 40" LCD in my living room once I buy my top spec computer.

Having scanned the internet and magazines, it seems that AMD offer the best value and have come up with
the following:

Athlon 64 X2 4200+
Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H
Gigabyte GZ-X1
Hard drive for Windows and my progs
DVD-RW - taken from my old computer
1TB Spinpoint (which I keep my music, camcorder footage etc) - taken from old computer
500GB IDE Hitachi Drive for Back up - taken from old computer
4GB RAM
Antec Basiq Power 350w ATX

Using the above bits and canabilising bits from old computer, I reckon I can build a fairly good computer to keep me going that is cheap as chips.

Just a few bits advice would be appreciated:

Q1. Will the power supply be good enough for all this? and some upgrading in the future?
Q2. The CPU is the lowest spec dual core - would it be cost effective to get something a little better?
Q3. I would like the ability to upgrade bits as time goes one. I really do not understand how the AMD chips are named. I know that the MOBO supports AMD2+ - what CPUs could I upgrade to in the future?
Q4. What speed of RAM should I get - noted that they range from DDR2-400 to DDR2-1066. Obviously, the fast it gets, the more expensive, but what is the recommended speed, without being a waste on my board, and would be good for my situation
Q5. Have no idea which HDD to use for windows and my programmes. Not only do you have to consider brands, but also cache size and size. Would anyone recommend anything in particular? One thing that concerns me that only the biggest drives have the big cache, but then would a big cache necessarily help with a modest build? Also, would a huge drive then be wasteful as I am unlikely to stick masses of programmes on it and I read that system drives should be kept small
Q6. As my back up drive and RW are ide, I was thinking of using round shielded cables instead of the usual ribbon ones - is this a good idea?

As you can probably tell, this is the first computer for which I have had to choose the bits for myself and your help would be great. Hopefully I can learn some stuff before I have to build a fast one next year.

Noobo-k
UK
 
If you're just going for a cheap temporary build, I would recommend buying a prebuilt computer and simply upgrading it. I've seen some computers going on sale for $400, and most of the time you only need to upgrade the video card and the power supply, which will only run you an extra $150 or so.
 
you can get a really good comp for 550 though

True, but not a gaming computer with a $100 video card in it. Most of the time you need to spend $1,000 to get a good stock built computer with a nice video card in it. If you can find a cheap build with high clocked processor, you should be set for a cheap gaming computer.
 
Here's a cheap build:

AMD Athlon X2 7850 Black Edition Kuma 2.8GHz ($60.00 )
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103678

GIGABYTE GA-MA74GM-S2 Motherboard ($54.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128342

Patriot 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 ($25.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220255

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 4650 ($49.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102838

Western Digital Caviar SE 250GB SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive ($44.99 )
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136113

COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus 500W Power Supply ($39.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171031

LITE-ON DVD Burner ($24.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106281

COOLER MASTER Centurion Computer Case ($44.99 )
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119106

Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit ($109.99 )
Includes free Windows 7 upgrade coupon
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116677

$455.92 USD plus shipping.
 
Have been on a few websites and have found that a decent case is the Antec 300 - the price has gone up recently but has been voted as the top budget case.

One are that I am really not sure on is the PSU. This is the only thing that appears to be one never to scrimp on. The Antec I was looking at has mixed reviews. Do you think it would be worth stretching to something like an Antec VX-450 just in case?

Also decided that the AMD Athlon X2 7850 Black Edition, would be worth considering. What do you think?
 
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