[poll] how many people dowanload games

Do you download games legitimatly

  • Yes I Legaly Download Games

    Votes: 26 51.0%

  • No

    Votes: 15 29.4%

  • I think people who download games are pirates

    Votes: 4 7.8%

  • I download games illegally

    Votes: 25 49.0%
  • Total voters
    51
  • Poll closed .
I agree Droogie :)

I also do the dl the game before buying when no demo is available ^-^

Then I go out and buy it and keep playing the dled version. Its kinda funny to see 40-50 games all still wrapped with a burned version of the same game right next to it ><
 
Have there been any cases where someone is sued/criminally charged for downloading pirated games? I mean, the RIAA is only group that I know of aggressively prosecuting pirates, and they only deal with music. The only people I've heard of getting busted for movies are those that are either selling pirated copies or smuggling cameras into movie theaters. Likewise for games... the only people I've heard of getting busted were those selling pirated copies.
 
PohTayToez said:
Have there been any cases where someone is sued/criminally charged for downloading pirated games? I mean, the RIAA is only group that I know of aggressively prosecuting pirates, and they only deal with music. The only people I've heard of getting busted for movies are those that are either selling pirated copies or smuggling cameras into movie theaters. Likewise for games... the only people I've heard of getting busted were those selling pirated copies.
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There are a lot of people getting busted for downloading/uploading movies/games/etc. in the USA.
I believe some Internet providers try to catch people, and the MPAA and movie companies try to catch people.
A quick google search could tell you this.
 
computernoob1 said:
There are a lot of people getting busted for downloading/uploading movies/games/etc. in the USA.
I believe some Internet providers try to catch people, and the MPAA and movie companies try to catch people.
A quick google search could tell you this.
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Yeah, you're definitely right about the MPAA going after people. I hadn't read any stories about it, but a search showed there had been sever suits against individual for downloading pirated movies.
 
Well, what is jacked up is I encrypt all out going traffic from my network, and things like folding at home or SENA or whatever it is called send packets out all the time which are also encrypted.

So, on what grounds do these organizations have to view your traffic and off what base can they subpoena your ISP for logs of what you are doing?

Look, if you are going to use something buy it, seriously go out and buy it. If you pirate it, you are hurting the industry you are trying to support. I know that you aren't really supporting the developers or artists as much as the big evil corporate publishers and record labels, but they front the money for that stuff. I think their business models are old and jacked up but that is a whole different subject all together.

However, on what grounds should they be allowed to search and based on what? When does it violate your 4th amendment right (if you are a US citizen)?

Let me give you a hypothetical here:

Let's say I am running uTorrent and I am seeding say 5 Linux distros while I am at work. My upload bandwidth is maxed, plus I am upload folding at home as well. All legit and completely legal uses of torrents. However, being the person that I am, outgoing traffic is encrypted in any application that uses the net. This is because I don't want any personal information of mine floating around. You think email is safe? You email someone important information and it has to pass through a lot of servers and routers to get to it's final destination. There are plenty of ways someone can look at something which is why I only use webmail that supports HTTPS.

So, they are now looking at my bandwidth usage and they see huge spikes of uploading. They are like this guy is sharing something so they subpoena me because the large companies hired a big bully organization backed with lots of money to scare them into playing nice. So they show up and say hey, we are here to inspect your computer. They find the 5 Linux torrents and folding at home and I explain to them that is legit, actually, wait, lets back up.

They show up at my home and I first slam the door int heir faces and say get a warrant fascist pigs, I know my rights. Then I go over and crypt my hard drive just to screw with them and my password will be the lyrics to a song I like, so like 150+ characters easily counting spaces of course.

At what point does a judge give warrant and at what point am I giving up my personal freedoms and rights for a piece of software that I may or may not have? Is busting me for the few illegal songs I downloaded going to stop it? No, is it going to say I don't support music? Ha, never, I will gladly point the jury to photos of my vinyl record collection.

What I would be worried about most is your personal rights and your privacy and not about whether is amoral to download a movie or an album.
 
tlarkin said:
Well, what is jacked up is I encrypt all out going traffic from my network, and things like folding at home or SENA or whatever it is called send packets out all the time which are also encrypted.

So, on what grounds do these organizations have to view your traffic and off what base can they subpoena your ISP for logs of what you are doing?

Look, if you are going to use something buy it, seriously go out and buy it. If you pirate it, you are hurting the industry you are trying to support. I know that you aren't really supporting the developers or artists as much as the big evil corporate publishers and record labels, but they front the money for that stuff. I think their business models are old and jacked up but that is a whole different subject all together.

However, on what grounds should they be allowed to search and based on what? When does it violate your 4th amendment right (if you are a US citizen)?

Let me give you a hypothetical here:

Let's say I am running uTorrent and I am seeding say 5 Linux distros while I am at work. My upload bandwidth is maxed, plus I am upload folding at home as well. All legit and completely legal uses of torrents. However, being the person that I am, outgoing traffic is encrypted in any application that uses the net. This is because I don't want any personal information of mine floating around. You think email is safe? You email someone important information and it has to pass through a lot of servers and routers to get to it's final destination. There are plenty of ways someone can look at something which is why I only use webmail that supports HTTPS.

So, they are now looking at my bandwidth usage and they see huge spikes of uploading. They are like this guy is sharing something so they subpoena me because the large companies hired a big bully organization backed with lots of money to scare them into playing nice. So they show up and say hey, we are here to inspect your computer. They find the 5 Linux torrents and folding at home and I explain to them that is legit, actually, wait, lets back up.

They show up at my home and I first slam the door int heir faces and say get a warrant fascist pigs, I know my rights. Then I go over and crypt my hard drive just to screw with them and my password will be the lyrics to a song I like, so like 150+ characters easily counting spaces of course.

At what point does a judge give warrant and at what point am I giving up my personal freedoms and rights for a piece of software that I may or may not have? Is busting me for the few illegal songs I downloaded going to stop it? No, is it going to say I don't support music? Ha, never, I will gladly point the jury to photos of my vinyl record collection.

What I would be worried about most is your personal rights and your privacy and not about whether is amoral to download a movie or an album.
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Thank you...patriot act?
 
bomberboysk said:
Thank you...patriot act?
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The Patriot Act gives the government power, not private corporations. The corporate bounty hunters often use the DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act) to weasel their way in and out of judges that give them powers.

The Patriot Act allows for government agencies, FBI, CIA, homeland (motherland) security, and so forth the ability to obtain search warrants and hold you with out representation in the name of national security if they can tie to you terrorist organizations.

All the while it doesn't fix the problem, it doesn't stop piracy, and I sure as hell don't feel any safer from terrorists all at the same time.

I love how our tax dollars are spent sometimes.
 
tlarkin said:
The Patriot Act gives the government power, not private corporations. The corporate bounty hunters often use the DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act) to weasel their way in and out of judges that give them powers.

The Patriot Act allows for government agencies, FBI, CIA, homeland (motherland) security, and so forth the ability to obtain search warrants and hold you with out representation in the name of national security if they can tie to you terrorist organizations.

All the while it doesn't fix the problem, it doesn't stop piracy, and I sure as hell don't feel any safer from terrorists all at the same time.

I love how our tax dollars are spent sometimes.
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Ah thats right, the dmca is what allows the corporations to get in. All these bills invading our privacy...geez. In 10 years what are they gonna have, cameras required in every hotel room and every room inside that hotel room? Then what, private residences? The world is goin nuts imo...
 
Many people download games for free because for one, they can't afford to buy it due to its price. Second, because there are a lot of games today that aren't worth buying.
 
bomberboysk said:
Ah thats right, the dmca is what allows the corporations to get in. All these bills invading our privacy...geez. In 10 years what are they gonna have, cameras required in every hotel room and every room inside that hotel room? Then what, private residences? The world is goin nuts imo...
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Do you remember what Intel has a patent on, I think it would be PIII era? They created this instruction set, built into the processor that hashes out a small hash code that allows for developers to hard code license keys into their software for anti piracy.

It never went into production because of the outrage the consumer market made of it, so it got shelved. For now. However they still own the patent on it.
 
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