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Stephen073190

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What do you guys think is better in order: an AMD 64 3200 969 pin or a Pentium 4 530 3.0GHz LGA775. I mean the pentiums have the higher mhz, but the AMD has a higher performance. Pentiums more cache, and runs cooler than the AMD's. AMD is better at overclocking, and it have the 969 pin. I don't know I'll let you guys decide.
 
Stephen073190 said:
What do you guys think is better in order: an AMD 64 3200 969 pin or a Pentium 4 530 3.0GHz LGA775. I mean the pentiums have the higher mhz, but the AMD has a higher performance. Pentiums more cache, and runs cooler than the AMD's. AMD is better at overclocking, and it have the 969 pin. I don't know I'll let you guys decide.
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I think you mean 939 pin for the athlon 64 3200. My personal perference is athlon 64 3200+. I am a gammer and the athlon 64 3200+ is a better gamming chip then the pentium 4 3.0ghz. not by alot but still enough that I would chose it.
 
yeah i have always been an AMD fan, but i am wondering if the games i play have optimal performance at aorund 2.5 ghz and my AMD 64 has a ghz equivilent of 2.2 will the game perform at optimal performance because it is a 64 or will it not because it doesn't have enough ghz of power???????
 
there is no Athlon 64 2200+. You're CPU might run at 2.2GHz but thats not comparable to a 2.2GHz Intel processor
 
actually when a athlon 64 3200+ is compared to a pentium 4 2.7 GHz then pentium wins for raw floating point calculations. however for games the athlon 64 wins, better memory support.
 
ok before someone else tells u clock speed doesnt mean that much
just because intel has higher GHZ does not mean it is is faster.
 
Ghz!

Ghz is misleading, as has been mentioned above. When looking at Athlons, they do not run at such high frequencies for reasons I am not fully aware of, but simply stated, they do not need as much as Pentiums to perform equally.

JAN :D
 
I hate to be a nag, but no one really answered my question (by the way thanks for the info so far) will it slow it down because the ghz wont meet the performance the game requires or will it, like dave said, be seen by system/games as a 2.7 ghz processor and perform that way. Because when a game or program sees that the processor is 2.2 (or whatever) ghz,will it say oh wait its an amd 64 and runs comparably at 2.7 ghz or will it say run it at 2.2 ghz quality???? Really sorry to nag i just want to be positive before spending $200.
 
Stephen073190 said:
I hate to be a nag, but no one really answered my question (by the way thanks for the info so far) will it slow it down because the ghz wont meet the performance the game requires or will it, like dave said, be seen by system/games as a 2.7 ghz processor and perform that way. Because when a game or program sees that the processor is 2.2 (or whatever) ghz,will it say oh wait its an amd 64 and runs comparably at 2.7 ghz or will it say run it at 2.2 ghz quality???? Really sorry to nag i just want to be positive before spending $200.
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the game doesn't really "recognize" GHz of your system. all it does is make sure it is supported and it will run. SOME games will auto optimize settings based on your speed of your setup, but again they don't look at GHz (most of the time) they look for GFX cards mostly and RAM amount. if u r saying AMD 2.2GHz = Intel 2.7GHz "quality" then the game running at 2.2GHz "quality" will be jsut as good as 2.7GHz speeds. really anything above 2.0GHz should run any game out there at medium settings if not high, your main bottleneck is gfx limitations and RAM amount/speed.
 
the game doesn't really "recognize" GHz of your system. all it does is make sure it is supported and it will run.
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most don't even check if they can run, they try to anyway and you get an unplayable game. Basically, the game doesn't care what clock speed your CPU is, only that it can process all the instructions it asks for in a timely manner. Long story short, games will run fine (with a decent video card and decent amount of RAM)
 
Cromewell said:
most don't even check if they can run, they try to anyway and you get an unplayable game. Basically, the game doesn't care what clock speed your CPU is, only that it can process all the instructions it asks for in a timely manner. Long story short, games will run fine (with a decent video card and decent amount of RAM)
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older ones do that, they try to run and sometimes screw themselves up (like NFSU on my gf's gfx card...cant even see the screen). On the other hand Thief 3 won't even start loading the game when i had my MX440 (unsupported gfx card) it told me i needed a different gfx card that supported pixel shader 2.0+. hopefully newer games will all do this.
 
Cromewell said:
video card checking (common) and processor checking (uncommon) are completely different :P
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i noticed on the RED Alert games, and GTA2 for PC...they optimize game sspeed and graphics depending on processor speed. quite odd.
 
Cromewell said:
red alert doesn't. that is why ithas that game speed slider on the options menu
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i thought it did? cuz i played it on my old machine and then on my sisters and it looked different and played different on hers. maybe she had a different version or something...so long ago i dont even remember. wasnt it windows 95?
 
i noticed on the RED Alert games, and GTA2 for PC...they optimize game sspeed and graphics depending on processor speed. quite odd.
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And how did you notice this?

i thought it did? cuz I played it on my old machine and then on my sisters and it looked different and played different on hers. maybe she had a different version or something...so long ago I dont even remember. wasnt it windows 95?
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Been through the entire CnC line, none of them did that
 
Praetor said:
And how did you notice this?

Been through the entire CnC line, none of them did that
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in GTA2 it plays REALLY fast on my main computer (faster computer) and on my P3 it plays like normal. this (as far as i can tell) is a pretty bad attempt to make the game run better for a faster computer.

it was the same with Red Alert, i noticed it played automatically at lower settings on a slower computer, before i ever messed with the video options or anything. maybe this isnt really optimization, but default settings seemed to be different on mine and my sisters slower computer when we both had it.
 
4W4K3 said:
in GTA2 it plays REALLY fast on my main computer (faster computer) and on my P3 it plays like normal. this (as far as i can tell) is a pretty bad attempt to make the game run better for a faster computer.
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Try putting the frame limiter back on.
 
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