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ok ... i was just wondering what do you all think the best language is to start computer programming? I got told in college it was pascal because it teaches you structure. What do you all think? And is there a better lang to begin on?

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You can have structure in almost any language ... i'd reccomend VB or C depending on how deep you plan to study programming :)
 
well id love to do it to whatever level it takes to work in it lol... and i know your constantly learning... ive sat through a few months of pascal and im good at it (yawn)... but it seems completly useless :D
 
I think actionscript (flash) is the best(and easiest) because it is object oriented(if you want) , you don't have to start with programming, its not super complicated and it has the power to be super complicated.
 
I started with qbasic in high school. really easy language. Computer science 1 in college was base on C++. C++ is my language of perference but latly I been getting into java. I Would start with C++ if you plan to do real programming one day. You can learn structure programming from c++ once you mastered that you can learn object orienated programming with it. C++ forces you to really learn pointers to do advance things. Java sorta hides pointers from you. I like the greater control you have in C++ over java.
 
Java is the devil. C/C++ is good, but for beginners in all honesty (as much as it shocks me to say it) this language called TURING is actually quite good. It can be object oriented or not, its not forced on you and not taken to the extreme like it is in Java (I hate Java). It also has pointers which are important to learn.
 
Cromewell said:
Java is the devil. C/C++ is good, but for beginners in all honesty (as much as it shocks me to say it) this language called TURING is actually quite good. It can be object oriented or not, its not forced on you and not taken to the extreme like it is in Java (I hate Java). It also has pointers which are important to learn.
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LOL its funny seeing how many people hate Java.. When I learned it.. it came so naturally to me I actually enjoy it :D (which ticks off many people..)

...Ive heard of TURING before.. its a pretty good way for schools to teach kids the basics of programming.. and even some semi-advanced things... but it starts out at like $250 - $350 for a basic license...
 
SFR said:
LOL its funny seeing how many people hate Java.. When I learned it.. it came so naturally to me I actually enjoy it :D (which ticks off many people..)
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I can program fine in java I just find C++ to be a much more efficent language. the automatic garbage collection of java comes with a cost. I much rather have control over my garbage collection. There are advantages to java to like how easy they are to embed into webpages.
 
mgoldb2 said:
I can program fine in java I just find C++ to be a much more efficent language. the automatic garbage collection of java comes with a cost. I much rather have control over my garbage collection. There are advantages to java to like how easy they are to embed into webpages.
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Yeah I like how its platform independent :D cause of JVM ..and like you said about webpages.. I like how easy it is to create applets...
 
any intrepreted language is platform independant, it comes at the cost of running speed though. And like mgoldb2 said, the garbage collection is garbage :P. Also it has the tendancy to be overly descriptive about errors yet somehow manage not to tell you what is actually wrong.
 
Cromewell said:
Also it has the tendancy to be overly descriptive about errors yet somehow manage not to tell you what is actually wrong.
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I once forgot to catch a exception boy it did not like that much. Of cource the error it gave did not help me at all figure it out. ( this was when I first started with java and was use to C++ which was not as picky about thowing and catching exceptions.
 
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