Programming

Diddy

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I would like to start programming a little. I am not experienced, the only programming like thing I do is LaTeX. But now I would get started programming. So what should I start with? And do you have any guides? etc.
 
Maybe the quickest way if you have a grip of HTML is too learn Javascript, (Java) you dont need to buy any compilers, what you learn can be converted over to C, C++, etc. as you save up to buy a C, C++ program.
Tutorials on Internet, active email groups to answer your problems, or web site forums (like this) to post your problems
 
But I do not know HTML code either I am learning it.

So should I first learn HTML then Java and then try something more advanced?
 
Diddy said:
But I do not know HTML code either I am learning it.

So should I first learn HTML then Java and then try something more advanced?

Yes, start with HTML (Even the basics), move on to Java and then maybe C, C++.

I enjoyed IRC scripting in mIRC :)
 
Rip_Uk said:
Yes, start with HTML (Even the basics), move on to Java and then maybe C, C++.
HTML, Javascript, and Java all fit together nicely, and are a good place to start, actually that's what I am working on right now. :)
 
Im working on HTML at the moment just having a few problems with frames. The website i am using is very good it ishttp://www.w3schools.com
As i say frames are a bit of a pain so far and i have just finished the part about adding pictures

sam
 
I have just tried some HTML, but thanks for your help.

But I am using LaTeX, does anyone know that, and will the fact that I am ok at that help me?
 
HTML is not a programming language, it is just a way too present a page of information,

You don't really need to know HTML 100% just enough to get your Javascript to work and learn from it,

In fact if you go to http://sourceforge.net/projects/dev-cpp/
and download a free program to learn C / C++ and then there is a Email group you can ask for help if you run into problems
 
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The first language I learned was BASIC.

HTML is a markup language and far different than any procedural or object oriented application development languages.

Rip_Uk, learning some HTML will do absolutely nothing to prepare you for Java or even javascript. The only thing you need to know to insert javascript into an HTML page is a single tag: <script type="text/javascript"> and a few of its attributes....

Having someone then learn java is a VERY bad idea. The syntax alone will create havoc on new programmers.


Diddy, I suggest you take Eric Richards' advise and start with at least the C subset of C/C++. There have been a few threads on this topic that really illustrate why you should learn a procedural programming language first like C and then move to an object oriented language like C++.

(If you are interested in web development and want to learn HTML, learning PHP can be quite valuable.)
 
But Now I am bit confussed :confused: you say that I should not learn HTML and that it will only confuse me when learning Java script. And do you think that I should start out with C or what?
 
HTML and Javascript are trivial
C is a very good choice and BTW Java is based on C but Java is Object-Oriented
so you won't find any problems if you started with C and then upgraded to an object-oriented language like C++,C# or Java
and try to stay away from windows application , you need to learn the basics of programming so start with console application
it's simple and you will learn something
 
shadyi said:
HTML and Javascript are trivial
C is a very good choice and BTW Java is based on C but Java is Object-Oriented
so you won't find any problems if you started with C and then upgraded to an object-oriented language like C++,C# or Java
and try to stay away from windows application , you need to learn the basics of programming so start with console application
it's simple and you will learn something

I think for learning the basics of structure such as loops and "if, then" statements etc.. will be easier to understand and create in C.

And lets confuse the situation by throwing around C#... that brings Java, a bit of VB.NET, C and C++ into the mix.


Diddy,

What I said was that learning HTML will not help you with Javascript. If your intent is to learn a programming language C is a better choice to begin with.
 
Eric Richards said:
Javascript, (Java)
Java and Javascript are not the same thing. Java script is a more simple copy of Java without compilers, its a mix of HTML and Java. Java script has limited libraries and functionality, and is not nearly as popular as Java. Also the java compiler is free, as is the documentation for the hundreds of api's. Java programs can be run as an Applet (Such as a game in Internet Explorer) or in full screen with WebStart. Java has 2d and 3d functionality, and works with Open GL. Start with java man, its a much better choice. And if you start java, download JCreator. Great free text editor for Java.
SDK (Software Devolopment Kit) and before you install this uninstall your old version of java.
https://sdlc2a.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet;jsessionid=47A0A9C6A5BBF4D0C4F9379ECF18890D
API Documentation
https://sdlc4d.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet;jsessionid=E6FFB4C6EFDE72FF04C97277829F88D4
 
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Java and Javascript are not the same thing. Java script is a more simple copy of Java without compilers, its a mix of HTML and Java. Java script has limited libraries and functionality, and is not nearly as popular as Java. Also the java compiler is free, as is the documentation for the hundreds of api's. Java programs can be run as an Applet (Such as a game in Internet Explorer) or in full screen with WebStart. Java has 2d and 3d functionality, and works with Open GL. Start with java man, its a much better choice. And if you start java, download JCreator. Great free text editor for Java.
SDK (Software Devolopment Kit) and before you install this uninstall your old version of java.
https://sdlc2a.sun.com/ECom/EComActi...3 79ECF18890D
API Documentation
https://sdlc4d.sun.com/ECom/EComActi...7 277829F88D4
you're getting too specific
i think this will confuse the dude :)

What I said was that learning HTML will not help you with Javascript. If your intent is to learn a programming language C is a better choice to begin with.

That's it !
 
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