Pros and Cons of SSD?
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tech savvy
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No cons buy solid state and don't debate
110% agree.
Okedokey
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Couple of points, but really only people that have experience with SSDs should comment, the rest is conjecture (particularly if negative).
The standard mechanical hard drive in a modern computer is by far the biggest bottleneck.
Windows 7 automatically disables defrag on a SSD and TRIM prevents any degradation.
The power consumption is significantly lower so don't believe otherwise
Much less noise and heat.
Ensure you have a backup routine as if the MTBF is much lower than expected it should still be under warranty.
Firmware updates are available for most SSDs to overcome any initial problems.
The standard mechanical hard drive in a modern computer is by far the biggest bottleneck.
Windows 7 automatically disables defrag on a SSD and TRIM prevents any degradation.
The power consumption is significantly lower so don't believe otherwise
Much less noise and heat.
Ensure you have a backup routine as if the MTBF is much lower than expected it should still be under warranty.
Firmware updates are available for most SSDs to overcome any initial problems.
tech savvy
Active Member
all you did is just repeat what i said on page two.
Okedokey
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where did you specifcally mention TRIM, Windows 7's handling of SSDs, warranties and back up routines? I didn't read your post as I normally find them of little interest. May be you will also find that your post is repetitive, however for a summary i included it all, plus the stuff that noone else mentioned, including you.
Id have to disagree,You cannot compare a standard Sata 2 hard drive to a SSD drive!
Everything from Bootup speeds and system responsiveness has just been 10x better for me since switching to an SSD drive.
Im hoping that sometime in the next year or two that higher capacity drives will come out and hopefully not cost the earth...then i can install the OS + all my games to that.
A 250Gb drive would be perfect for me,But the OCZ Vertex 2 250Gb SSD are $630 USD
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tech savvy
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I wrote-"no need for maintenance" = "Windows 7 automatically disables defrag on a SSD and TRIM prevents any degradation"
I wrote-"lower power consumption" = "The power consumption is significantly lower so don't believe otherwise"
I wrote-"no heat" = "Much less noise and heat"
I wrote-"silent" = "Much less noise and heat"
I wrote-"longer life span, more reliable and way faster and" = you wrote-nothing
you just wrote it differently, thats all. Maybe you should start reading post before you post your own, you might be just repeating what someone else said.
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tech savvy
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I have to strongly disagree there, its way beyond leaps and bounds.
Infinity_Plus
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From my experience with SSD's, they are significantly faster, but the price-point is not worth the change-over unless you are (a) Getting a cheap, MLC SSD, likely without TRIM or (b) you have a decent cash flow coming in.
That's not to say SSD's are stupid expensive, but they are a bit pricey. The significance is great, however, and they are generally worth the money.
Some SSD's are limited in their Read/Write/Overwrite capabilities. Be sure to do your research before picking an SSD. Some can only Read/Write so many times before simply failing out.
That's not to say SSD's are stupid expensive, but they are a bit pricey. The significance is great, however, and they are generally worth the money.
Some SSD's are limited in their Read/Write/Overwrite capabilities. Be sure to do your research before picking an SSD. Some can only Read/Write so many times before simply failing out.
diduknowthat
formerly liuliuboy
But it is the usual everyday stuff that you see the biggest performance gains. I can boot up quickly and then immediately launch chrome, steam, aim, skype, thunderbird and winamp all the at the same time while loading startup programs. With my old hard drive they'll be a huge choke there. Photoshop loads in 3 seconds flat. The entire operating system is much more responsive.
Okedokey
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When you become a mod, then you can tell me what I can write. Since you are new to this forum i suggest you pull your head in. I simply wrote what I thought. You too repeated many points that had already been suggeted, however with some errors.
secondly, there are some inaccuracies here. There is no evidence for increased life span or realiability, in fact its probably the opposite due to the limited write / read cycles (called write endurance). If you don't have Win7 (which you didn't specify one way or another) you will see degradation and they do actually generate heat, just less. So don't be so cocky as what you wrote is actually different to what i said and is several instances inaccurate.
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SSD pros and cons
It's worth noting that although the performance rate of SSD's usually start off very high and and stay at a good range, there can be a percentage slide within the first 6 months of use. There are some other factors that play a role in the general usage of SSD's though that should at least be known. For example, SSD's to have a finite life cycle of only so many erase/write cycles.
With that in mind, fragmentation can exacerbate the problem to where the erase/write cycles can be increased where fragmentation is present. Despite that, frequent defragmentation of SSD's can invite a similar problem in reducing the life cycle further so there is a bit of a catch-22. I actually work as a Tech Support Rep for Diskeeper Corporation and they have some extensive information on SSD voulmes that cover information on performance and reliability metrics for these drive types. If you ever want, you can see some of our findings at: http://downloads.diskeeper.com/pdf/Optimizing-Solid-State-Storage-with-HyperFast-Technology.pdf
It's worth noting that although the performance rate of SSD's usually start off very high and and stay at a good range, there can be a percentage slide within the first 6 months of use. There are some other factors that play a role in the general usage of SSD's though that should at least be known. For example, SSD's to have a finite life cycle of only so many erase/write cycles.
With that in mind, fragmentation can exacerbate the problem to where the erase/write cycles can be increased where fragmentation is present. Despite that, frequent defragmentation of SSD's can invite a similar problem in reducing the life cycle further so there is a bit of a catch-22. I actually work as a Tech Support Rep for Diskeeper Corporation and they have some extensive information on SSD voulmes that cover information on performance and reliability metrics for these drive types. If you ever want, you can see some of our findings at: http://downloads.diskeeper.com/pdf/Optimizing-Solid-State-Storage-with-HyperFast-Technology.pdf
Okedokey
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Nice, welcome to CF. Doesn't Win 7 take care of most of the issues by disabling superfetch etc and with (in my example) intel's toolkit? I haven't noticed any performance losses yet.
i agree that ssd are fast, but yes expensive. im wondering though, what people think of 2 drives in raid 0. i have 2x1 TB in raid 0 for a total of 2 TB, and my read and write times are both 250+mb/s. doesnt it make more sence to just raid 2 or more drives together, giving you similar or better speeds (depending on how many drives are in the raid), much more drive space, and cheaper than a ssd? sure i know that raid 0 posses a risk of data lose, but to be honost ive ran raid forever now and never had a problem. i also have a ssd by intel the x25 40 gig, and im more happy with my 2 drives in raid 0 as it is a little faster than the ssd, and is literaly 500 times the space, and only 35 more than the 40 gig ssd.
Benny Boy
Active Member
Like mentioned, ssd's aren't defragged. They will frag, but they don't take the performance hit. There are several other things that can be done to ensure an ssd's speedy lifespan other than 7's native tweaks.
I wouldn't say the con to a Mercedes is it's price because a Chevy is cheaper.
Drive for drive, the only place the hdd beats the ssd, is in the hdd's install/uninstall- format abilities. And that's managable.
I wouldn't say the con to a Mercedes is it's price because a Chevy is cheaper.
Drive for drive, the only place the hdd beats the ssd, is in the hdd's install/uninstall- format abilities. And that's managable.
JustinKranz
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SSD's are a lot more expensive than a regular 7200rpm HDD but with reason. SSD's are a lot faster, a lot quieter, and if you are using it in a laptop it's very helpful because you won't have to worry about shaking your laptop because there isn't a spinning disc that will get scratched.
Overall, if you're thinking of putting it into a desktop, I would wait for the price to lower unless you're just getting a small size for your boot up.
If you want to put an SSD into a laptop, get the biggest size you think you will need because SSDs are a lot more beneficial in a laptop. (you can also buy a small SSD for your laptop and use a external for all your data).
Overall, if you're thinking of putting it into a desktop, I would wait for the price to lower unless you're just getting a small size for your boot up.
If you want to put an SSD into a laptop, get the biggest size you think you will need because SSDs are a lot more beneficial in a laptop. (you can also buy a small SSD for your laptop and use a external for all your data).