Puppy Linux livecd; grafpup

steve s.

steve s.

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Has anyone used this livecd?

I know this is one of those questions that I should just know the answer, but I'm not totally new to this game and I just can't @#$%# figure it out:

Does anyone know how to set the mouse to left handed?

I can use the mouse in the normal right handed mode, but I want to be able to change it to left. I'm sure some of you long-timers are laughing right now, but if you wanted left handed and YOU couldn't find it, you'd be grumpy too!:)

I can't find it anywhere on the net 'cause I'm just supposed to be able find where to do that. Nope...can't find it. It's probably some place obvious (like changing the screen resolution, which I also can't find besides at startup) but I just can't find it. Maybe via command line, or something....

I really hope someone in this forum knows how to do that with this distro. I picked it to try 'cause you are supposed to be able to use usb wireless pretty well with it, but that left-handed thing is gettin' me.
 
Not too many here are Linux orientated to any degree while many have tried or are still running installed to drive distros. Knoppix, ubuntu, and Gentoo are the live distros kept on hand here. Are you referring to the pointer or the physical mouse used? There are left handed model mice available.
 
PC eye said:
Not too many here are Linux orientated to any degree while many have tried or are still running installed to drive distros. Knoppix, ubuntu, and Gentoo are the live distros kept on hand here. Are you referring to the pointer or the physical mouse used? There are left handed model mice available.
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Yeah, I was afraid of that...those distro's I know. No, you can switch the buttons on a mouse with virtually every OS out there, including Windows (via control panel, which makes sense) so that a lefty can use the usual right button as the primary button.

Ok...well, if anyone reads this and does know how to find it, I'd be obliged.:)
 
Fortunately I can usually find something I look for. These two links describe how reassign a mouse in KDE or Gnome. You could try these to see if you get any results. But each time you boot in a live distro.... you know the rest.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/accessibility/linux/keyboard/mouse_easy/left/mouse-left-handed-gnome.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/accessibility/linux/keyboard/mouse_easy/left/mouse-left-handed-kde.shtml

I can also refer you to a regular Linux forum if you get the needed advice here. The link here was on MAndrake Communty 10.1 since the Puppy section had nothing on this when searched. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=281271
 
Thanks PC eye! Very appreciated...I'll check out the links on KDE and Gnome. Although, invariably, once you have used each of these a few times, I'm still amazed at how the subtle differences with each distro may change things dramatically.

I checked out a different distro, Kanotix, and it read the usb linksys wireless right away. But thanks for your work, and I will check out those links (any new knowledge is great!).
 
Nope, PC eye...neither one of those instructionals got it. It seems grafpup has some type of mutant cross-breed of gnome and kde...oh, well.:rolleyes:
 
It was a thought there since that is a regular Linux forum. In fact there are usually more leads to tutorials coming from there then other sites. Perhaps starting a thread in the Puppy section there on this would be the help when someone with some better suggestions or tips can jump in. There were a few other posts in other distros about this. See if anything was added to those.
 
Hey, check it out...I'm continuing the post for those perusing the forum later that might have the same issue.

It seems they didn't really have it in there...you have to command line configure the mouse. Hopefully in future distro's...
 
As you can readily see there you have to be a little familiar with the UNIX style Qbasic to configure the left hand setting in the root file. That in a way is similar to editing the autoexec.bat files on 9X-ME systems. VFat is close to Fat16 and Fat32 in that regard. You will find that modifying files for things like this is far more common in Linux. That's one reason they call it "Open Source". Someone has to figure how to mod files to get anything done! :P
 
PC eye said:
As you can readily see there you have to be a little familiar with the UNIX style Qbasic to configure the left hand setting in the root file. That in a way is similar to editing the autoexec.bat files on 9X-ME systems. VFat is close to Fat16 and Fat32 in that regard. You will find that modifying files for things like this is far more common in Linux. That's one reason they call it "Open Source". Someone has to figure how to mod files to get anything done! :P
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Man...you got that right. I'm relatively used to it in Linux, just not for something that should be a given, as far as I'm concerned.
 
I have to relearn the bash commands all over again to try out another distro on a spare sometime. Plus I haven't been running the three live cds for Knoppix, ubuntu, and Gentoo for several months now. Did you know you could use Linux to clone an XP installation? Read the thread at http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=134457

How about repairs on Windows with Knoppix Live for dvd/cd? http://searchopensource.techtarget.com/tip/1,289483,sid39_gci1111316,00.html

But there are some gripes about the free OS to listen to at http://www.computergripes.com/knoppix.html As far as a given OS you have to work harder, spend more time creating multiple partitions, and learn seemingly more commands then running an old dos machine. Can we charge Linux for time and labor there? :P Nnnaaaaa.... we wouldn't do that.
 
PC eye said:
I have to relearn the bash commands all over again to try out another distro on a spare sometime. Plus I haven't been running the three live cds for Knoppix, ubuntu, and Gentoo for several months now. Did you know you could use Linux to clone an XP installation? Read the thread at http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=134457

How about repairs on Windows with Knoppix Live for dvd/cd? http://searchopensource.techtarget.com/tip/1,289483,sid39_gci1111316,00.html

But there are some gripes about the free OS to listen to at http://www.computergripes.com/knoppix.html As far as a given OS you have to work harder, spend more time creating multiple partitions, and learn seemingly more commands then running an old dos machine. Can we charge Linux for time and labor there? :P Nnnaaaaa.... we wouldn't do that.
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Oh, that's just cool...gonna have to try that.

I've used Knoppix and Gnoppix many times to repair computers...they rock. Also check out Reatogo and BartPE for Windows livecd's...both very good for read and write on NTFS. And it looks like PCLinuxOS may be the best for reading all types of hardware.

For those that do computer repair and have not used livecd's, I'm amazed. They have helped me many times read a drive, get the data off of there, and never even have to run the drive.

As far as Linux charging more for time and labor, well...let's just say, if I had only used Windows I wouldn't have learned nearly as much about computers as I have in the short amount of time that I have used Linux. Again, sort of baptism by fire, but shortens that learning curve. You have to learn, but you GET to learn. Good stuff.:D

And, once you learn it, now I can do an Ubuntu install with WAY more software, quicker than an XP install. Even quicker if I use a Knoppix livecd or something like that. Great stuff for bringing old computers back to life, which is usually the stuff that I work with. Go figure, this was the first computer book that I read. :)
 
You don't think I started with a system that had a dual cored cpu in it do you? The first systems I worked on didn't even have a hard drive in them. Try a cassette tape instead. Linux works great on older system as well as the latest thrills due to only having a need for 4mb of ram. That's a world of difference when compared to Windows apps that generally 64mb or 128mb to run.

I couldn't find of the better links for rescuing XP with a live distro. But one good one that explains how to use Knoppix Live can be seen at http://www.planetfez.net/engl223/archive/page2.html
Linux itself is known for having better hardware detection as well. If you have worked with dos for any period of time you understand why learning bash commands requires a switch over to VFat there. At first I hated ME when the shutdown to dos mode was taken out. But I now run 8bit dos apps on the XP system here soon to see another distro. Vista??? :confused: :confused: :confused: !!!
 
Cassette tape?! :eek: Wow...all respect goes out to you...

And, yeah, Vista coming soon? Is that good or bad?:rolleyes:


Oh, and since we are already off the topic, would you explain the difference between VFat and FAT16 AND 32? I thought that VFat was a broader category of 16 and 32, but some of the stuff you have said has caused me to question that.
 
Fortunately Berkeley's education dept. has a real good look at just waht VFat is at http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/vfat.html

VFat is similar to 95 and NT's long file name support. As far as Vista the beta version is already out for those with paid subscriptions to MSNet or something like that. IE 7 is one to certainly avoid for use on XP! The finished version should be out in December or January from what some have said. The new home page for the promo and test to see if your system is ready for it is at http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/default.aspx

Speaking of cassette tapes with only a few having preloaded programs on them you had to learn the programming there just to see anything run. That was with the Epson HX-20 notebook with a 512k ram expansion module if you took off the printer that looked liked sales receipts at retail stores. Supposedly you could hook up a cga type crt to it for the larger then 4" diagonal viewing lcd viewing screen. That used 4 rechargable C batteries or the 7v ac to dc adapter. When every other system saw thousands as a retail price those saw $379,95 suggested when they first came out in 1982.
 
PC eye said:
Speaking of cassette tapes with only a few having preloaded programs on them you had to learn the programming there just to see anything run. That was with the Epson HX-20 notebook with a 512k ram expansion module if you took off the printer that looked liked sales receipts at retail stores. Supposedly you could hook up a cga type crt to it for the larger then 4" diagonal viewing lcd viewing screen. That used 4 rechargable C batteries or the 7v ac to dc adapter. When every other system saw thousands as a retail price those saw $379,95 suggested when they first came out in 1982.
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Oh, that's just awesome...rechargable batteries, huh? Wow...All respect to you, my friend.:)
 
Believe it or not I almost bought one new when they first came out. I went into a store that carried communications equipment and that was sitting in a glass case for the retail price there. But at that time I was looking into getting into communications like ham radio. Several years I find myself going through dozens of them to see which ones could be reused. The best ones were given to students at the time when an IBM 486 was then a used system with the first Pentiums coming out. Nobody wanted a 512k ram portable! :eek: !
 
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