Question about SSD+HD combos

Russ88765

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Hey just wondering how a ssd+hd combo works? What I wanted to do was get a small ssd for booting up and accessing programs, but I want to store all the programs on a much bigger hard drive for storage. I hear about people doing this but don't quite get the concept. Any insight you guys could lend would be appreciated!
 
You're just using a faster hard drive for windows and essential programs, while having your normal mechanical hard drives for games and storage.
 
Hey just wondering how a ssd+hd combo works? What I wanted to do was get a small ssd for booting up and accessing programs, but I want to store all the programs on a much bigger hard drive for storage. I hear about people doing this but don't quite get the concept. Any insight you guys could lend would be appreciated!

An SSD is much, much faster than a hard drive, because of the lack of mechanical parts, everything is on flash memory chips. Because of this, the bottleneck created by the hard drive when booting, loading programs, saving etc is drastically reduced. But of course, this comes at a much higher price/GB

For stuff like music, small programs, documents, pictures and videos, the speed gain isn't the great, but for your operating system, frequently used programs and games, the difference is massive. A few seconds to boot up completely, to load a game or programs.

So, to take full advantage, you would put your operating system, frequently used programs (this doesn't include stuff like Ccleaner or Skype for example, the programs are too small and boots up quick enough anyway to make any major difference) and games on the SSD, with everything else on the hard drive, as it is cheaper storage
 
Can I put everything on the hard drive but run it with the SSD? I guess i'm still lost and wondering how to set this up. Second question would be, what size does the SSD have to be at minimum?
 
Can I put everything on the hard drive but run it with the SSD? I guess i'm still lost and wondering how to set this up
No. the solid state drive doesnt run the hhd. it's a drive. and the hdd will be a second drive.
the ssd is where you put as Aastii mentioned. progm's you put on the ssd will not be on the hhd.
the 2 drives(ssd & hdd) will work together as separate drives. EACH HAVING THE PROGRAMS YOU REINSTALL TO THEM.

Second question would be, what size does the SSD have to be at minimum?
the size depends on what programs you have - as mentioned. 60gb or larger seems to be a popular size. you can get recommends here if you mention all the programs you use.

aside from installing each program to its designated drive, it is also advisable to move certain files/folders from the os(ssd) to the hdd to conserve space on, and prolong the life of, youre ssd. also there are a few tweaks to be done to the os.

a search will help you set up youre ssd and install the os and programs, and how to configure everything for best performance.

and of course, you can always ask here. :)
 
Well I mean, I have movie/game/music collections that take up a ton of space. I'm really wanting that faster more reliable kind of performance, but with more space for all that stuff. Am I out of luck entirely and have to go with 7200rpm drives instead of SSD? I am wanting to use higher end emulators and games that require more system resources, so it became a concern of mine to get a faster, and more reliable drive to use.
 
Maybe just increased hdd performance is more what youre looking for.
i dont know much about raid arrays, other than perhaps a hw raid is better than a software raid. and raid can spread(strip) the data from a single data source, like a prog for instance, to more than 1 drive which allows the system to access the data faster. And i think there are arrays(more than 1 drive seen as 1 by the system) in which an extra drive will be unused unless one of the other drives fail - at which time the data will be mirrored to the unused one,,,like a back up plan for hdd failure. an ssd can be used for C:. and also have a raid array for hdd's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID

http://www.computerforum.com/computer-memory-hard-drives/announcements.html
 
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Well I mean, I have movie/game/music collections that take up a ton of space. I'm really wanting that faster more reliable kind of performance, but with more space for all that stuff. Am I out of luck entirely and have to go with 7200rpm drives instead of SSD? I am wanting to use higher end emulators and games that require more system resources, so it became a concern of mine to get a faster, and more reliable drive to use.

A 60GB drive is usually enough, with however much you need for storage.

Say ~15Gb for OS, that leave 45GB for games/whatever else. You mentioned emulators too, they don't need massive HDD speed, so they will be fine on a standard hard drive.

It isn't about what you use a lot, it is about what you use a lot which could benefit from the extra speed. I listen to a lot of music, but that is on a slower, 5400RPM drive, because whether on an SSD, a high RPM HDD, or a slow HDD, music will play the same because it doesn't have much data to transfer.

The same is true for small programs. An SSD may half the time it takes to open a small program, but when it only takes 2 seconds to open anyway, that would be wasted space, 1 second difference isn't a lot.

Now your OS, which will take 10 seconds rather than a minute to load, a game which will take 5 seconds rather than 20, that is a large difference, and remember it isn't just starting your OS or your game. Having your OS on your SSD will make all programs included with the OS run quicker, and in games, every map load, every save, when exiting the game, all of it will have times improved greatly
 
So I guess the only way to use ssd speed for all the things I use is to have all the programs on the ssd? I'm using about 250gigs worth of stuff right now and growing, should I save for a bigger size? Those ssd's are really expensive though, do you think they might go down in cost by next year? Reliability is a concern so I would rather invest in the ssd if it won't crap out like hd's are reported to.
 
I'm using about 250gigs worth of stuff right now and growing, should I save for a bigger size? .
Do those 250gb of stuff include all your data?

For an SSD as mentioned by others you only want to put your OS and other applications you will be using frequently. As far as software you use frequently, what do you use? Software that you would want to put on an SSD are softwares that take a while to execute. As mentioned by others, small software like skype or msn even your music collection at that does not need to be on an SSD as you will not notice considerable speed differences.

If you do have 250gb of stuff like applications you will be running frequently, you should look into a Western Digital VelociRaptor HDD they spin at 10 000 RPM.
 
So I guess the only way to use ssd speed for all the things I use is to have all the programs on the ssd? I'm using about 250gigs worth of stuff right now and growing, should I save for a bigger size? Those ssd's are really expensive though, do you think they might go down in cost by next year? Reliability is a concern so I would rather invest in the ssd if it won't crap out like hd's are reported to.

You wouldn't have all 250GB on there though. Take the following from that 250GB:

Music
Videos
Pictures
Documents
(relatively) Small Programs
(relatively) Small games

I'd imagine after that you will have maybe 100GB left at most.

From that, look at games and programs that you use regularly, as in at least 3 or 4 times a week. The will whittle it down even further, so all of it will fit on a 60GB drive.

If that is not the case and you mean you have 250GB stuff that you use regularly, and say 750GB that you use rarely, then yes, you would have to save, and it would probably be better to get a few SSD's to have in RAID0. 3 60GB drives will set you back a few hundred $, but you will have the storage you need, and lightning fast speed
 
How would 2 Seagate Momentus XT's(500gb) work out vs a ssd? I was thinkin that way I could still get cheap storage but a little bit of that speed too. Thoughts?
 
How would 2 Seagate Momentus XT's(500gb) work out vs a ssd? I was thinkin that way I could still get cheap storage but a little bit of that speed too. Thoughts?

Apparently according to reviews/banchmarks, they fall on, or very marginally below the performance of your mid-high end SSD's (Vertex, X25, Phoenix Pro etc) when in RAID0
 
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