Question about video cards

ro0kie

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okay so I noticed whenever I play dod:s I cant see all the details in the game b/c I have a very very VERY cheap video card, (ATI Radeon 7500 64mb). Even when I max out the settings I still cant notice the details it just looks smoother. But I've noticed that the better your hardware is obviously the better details and fps. Lets compare an ATI X1400 & an ATI X1900, will I be able to notice more details on X1900 than the X1400 or will I just have better fps? Im really sick of playing on this cheap piece of crap card and want a descent card where I can O/C and at least see all the details in the game. Imn ot an extreme gamer but I want something at least better than my 7500.
 
First of all the Radeon X1400 is for laptops and the X1900 is a PCI-Express video card. The Radeon 7500 is a 64mb AGP 2x/4x card. There are a number of newer AGP 4x/8x model cards that will easily outperform that one. This will also depend on the board you are running. It's not that it's a cheap card. It's due to being totally outdated for the more recent games.
 
dear mr. extreme gamer with a 7500,

the best thing you can do is to upgrade your video card to a 9 something (9500 for example). also probably upgrade your ram. how much memory do you have?
 
...also what's your budget?

And to answer your question, if you compare a X1400 and a X1900 video card the only difference in-game will be that it will run smoother (more FPS) if the game is really demanding for X1400 (laptop video card btw), for example F.E.A.R., the game will look exacly the same, but it will run very choppy with X1400.
 
Maybe the question should be "Whst's in the budget for a new system?". A little more system information like make and model board would go further in advising a few things needed to upgrade the current build.
 
Anyway, as PC Eye said, you're limited to AGP video cards, unless you also want to upgrade your motherboard. What's your budget for the new card?

I wouldnt mind spending $250 at the most on a new card. SoO if I had a DX9 vid card I should be able to see all the details right?

dear mr. extreme gamer with a 7500,

the best thing you can do is to upgrade your video card to a 9 something (9500 for example). also probably upgrade your ram. how much memory do you have?

lol??? I have around 768MB of RAM. Weird huh??? Its not 512 or 1024 of RAM its in between.

Maybe the question should be "Whst's in the budget for a new system?". A little more system information like make and model board would go further in advising a few things needed to upgrade the current build.

As for the budget on a new rig, Im going to wait until DX10 hardware, Vista, and quad core comes out, so I have plenty of time for that later.
 
Are you running an old Socket A or Intel P II system with something like a 166mhz fsb? You would need a newer board that supports AGP 4x/8x just to see an improvement with a 128mb card.
 
I'd be more than a little hesitant about putting $250 into an AGP card. For one thing, you won't be able to use it once you upgrade your system, and for another it would almost certainly be bottlenecked by your existing hardware. Additionally, a superior video card and PCI-E motherboard would actually be a cheaper option. If you do want to, however, the 7800GS or X850XT or XT PE are really the only options. A 6800GS or X850Pro would represent better value for money.

Could you tell us the rest of your system specs as well?
 
The thing about those is that they are PCI-Express and not AGP cards. Before being to plan out the intended 2007 build the cpu and board both went on the disabled list on the old case. That rushed this one together fast. But there hasn't been any complaint on performance yet.
 
All of the cards in my earlier post are AGP cards. Many of them do have PCI-E versions, however, and you'll need to make sure you go with the AGP models.
 
I'd be more than a little hesitant about putting $250 into an AGP card. For one thing, you won't be able to use it once you upgrade your system, and for another it would almost certainly be bottlenecked by your existing hardware. Additionally, a superior video card and PCI-E motherboard would actually be a cheaper option. If you do want to, however, the 7800GS or X850XT or XT PE are really the only options. A 6800GS or X850Pro would represent better value for money.

Could you tell us the rest of your system specs as well?

Yeah I was a little hesitant about upgrading anything on this outdated cheap piece of crap b/c my dads going to take it for work once I get a new computer. So I guess I should lower my budget or just forget about even getting a new vid card... Im going to be stuck with this computer for awhile so, I kinda want to upgrade the vid card to at least a DX9 card so I can see some better details. :] Im going to be with this comp until DX10 hardware, Vista and quad core comes out also Im going to need the funds as well so Im pretty sure Ill put the new vid card to good use. O yeah my comp specs are:

Intel P4 NorthwoodB SKT478 2.0Ghz O/C @ 2.5
Soyo Dragon-Lite Mobo
768MB RAM Kingston DDR 512MB + Mushkin DDR 256MB
ATI Radeon 7500 64MB
 
The model number for the board there would be help in locating the specifications for it. You can look over the list here to if one of the "lite" models is the one you are running there. http://www.soyousa.com/kb/kbdesc.php?id=17

The ATI Radeon 9550 256mb AGP card worked well here on an old Socket A board until that let go. The problem seen now on many of the cards that would work best on your board is the latest updates are intended more for use on newer models. Finding a good AGP 4x/8x card for a low price is about the highest you can go there.
 
okay so I noticed whenever I play dod:s I cant see all the details in the game b/c I have a very very VERY cheap video card, (ATI Radeon 7500 64mb). Even when I max out the settings I still cant notice the details it just looks smoother. But I've noticed that the better your hardware is obviously the better details and fps. Lets compare an ATI X1400 & an ATI X1900, will I be able to notice more details on X1900 than the X1400 or will I just have better fps? Im really sick of playing on this cheap piece of crap card and want a descent card where I can O/C and at least see all the details in the game. Imn ot an extreme gamer but I want something at least better than my 7500.

What Model motherboard do you have
 
A SIS chipset with a 1x/2x/4x AGP slot isn't going to get too far. You could boost the memory with a pair 1gb DDR333 PC2700 dimms and grab a slightly newer card. Another thing would be a 2.8ghz Socket 478 cpu upgrade to give things a boost overall.
 
What Model motherboard do you have

http://www.soyousa.com/products/proddesc.php?t=d&id=125

A SIS chipset with a 1x/2x/4x AGP slot isn't going to get too far. You could boost the memory with a pair 1gb DDR333 PC2700 dimms and grab a slightly newer card. Another thing would be a 2.8ghz Socket 478 cpu upgrade to give things a boost overall.

Im content with the proc I have and but Ill keep in mind about boosting the RAM upto 1GB. So any recommendations for a new DX9 video card? My budgets around $200.
 
Im content with the proc I have and but Ill keep in mind about boosting the RAM upto 1GB. So any recommendations for a new DX9 video card? My budgets around $200.

There are a good number of cards both NVidia and ATI chipped that are well below the $200 max there at this time. I can easily throw in a pair of links here to give you some options.

For ATI cards, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...639+4017+1305520549&Submit=ENE&SubCategory=48

For NVidia cards, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...639+4017+1305520548&Submit=ENE&SubCategory=48

These are in the $100-$200 price range.
 
So any recommendations for a new DX9 video card?
ATI Radeon X850PRO

A SIS chipset with a 1x/2x/4x AGP slot isn't going to get too far. You could boost the memory with a pair 1gb DDR333 PC2700 dimms and grab a slightly newer card. Another thing would be a 2.8ghz Socket 478 cpu upgrade to give things a boost overall.
With those sort of changes, it'd be better to go with a whole new system.

Im content with the proc I have and but Ill keep in mind about boosting the RAM upto 1GB
It certainly wouldn't hurt. Bear in mind that you probably won't be using these RAM chips in a new system, though.
 
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