Reseated HD 5970, new mobo, bad performance

Alright, just spent like 10 minutes in the game.
Settings:
Resolution 1920x1080x60 Hz 16:9
Fullscreen OFF (like i play FF)
Enable 3d Display ON
Graphics Level EXTREME

for the most part it ran fine, was a little choppy when walking/running but was playable. This game looked pretty graphic intensive so im not too surprised it was kinda choppy in window mode at EXTREME graphic levels.

So if this sounds normal to you.. What do you think changed since i reseated the card? I didn't have these problems with FF Before.

Edit: oh and i forgot to turn Frame Pacing back on but that option is under AMD CrossfireX so im assuming that doesnt matter in windowed mode anyway right?

Edit2: I just did some searching and apparently on drivers over 10.10 there is no longer an option to even turn CFX off.
 
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Okedokey said:
What is your CPU doing during gaming? 100% ? Im thinking your CPU is getting slammed.
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Thanks for the reply. Doesn't seem likely since this chip runs at 4.0 and my old chip (when i wasnt having problems) was at 3.2.

Looking at Core Temp most of the cores are well under 50% 1 or 2 of them are kind of close.
 
Yeah, well a 1090t may be better than a 8350 to be honest. You may have downgraded.

Make sure you have the latest bios for your mobo.

Also overclock that CPU and see if it helps. If it does then you know it the CPU.
 
I dont think I have, thats not somthing im very familiar with. What about the 1090t would be better then the 8350?

Also if it was a problem with my chip (or MoBo) wouldnt I have had problems with the Heaven Benchamark and or Sleeping Dogs?
 
Its a difficult one. The 1100T and 1090t are very similar in terms of performance to the 8350 in gaming. If you haven't updated the BIOS, do it, that can certainly help. I would also reinstall windows as that can have an affect. If all of that doesn't help, try overclocking the GPU. If that doesn't help overclock the CPU. If that doesn't help, you may need to upgrade the GPU.
 
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Its a difficult one. The 1100T and 1090t are very similar in terms of performance to the 8350 in gaming. If you haven't updated the BIOS, do it, that can certainly help. I would also reinstall windows as that can have an affect. If all of that doesn't help, try overclocking the GPU. If that doesn't help overclock the CPU. If that doesn't help, you may need to upgrade the GPU.
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im gonna try reinstalling Windows back onto my other hardrive and see if that makes any difference. The chip really shouldnt be a problem, especialy if its similar to the 1090T. THe recomended chip for this is an i5 clocked at 2.6. This chip isnt bottle necking.

Also, overclocking the GPU shouldn't be required either since ive been running this game at stock clocks since it came out and have only recently started having these issues.

Doing a google search it appears many people are having this stuttering issue with FF even with the 7970. Nobody has a solid fix.

If reinstalling windows doesnt fix it im going to try the bios thing.

Thanks for the help guys.. if you can think of anythign else, let me know!
 
Hey GUys, I thought you might like to get an update on the progress.. I noticed their were 5 new windows updates waiting to be installed. I don't know why these didnt come up earlier but whatever.. Anyway one of them was WIndows service pack 1.. Updated windows and the stuttering appears to be gone! if it comes back ill let you know but i think this mystery is solved! thanks again for the help!
 
Ok, just making sure. If it was vista then there is a service pack 2 out as well. SP1 for 7 has been out for quite some time now, February 9 2011. And there should more updates available for download since installing SP1.
 
yeah, im sure i had it before and thats why i wasnt experience the problem but I just reinstalled windows and im pretty sure it took its time letting me know i needed to DL it. I cant remember all the updates required over the last 3 years, haha. Thanks for the note though!
 
Okedokey said:
Yeah, well a 1090t may be better than a 8350 to be honest. You may have downgraded.

Make sure you have the latest bios for your mobo.

Also overclock that CPU and see if it helps. If it does then you know it the CPU.
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That is a ridiculous statement. A 1090T was similar to a 8120, no worse and no better. A 8350 is i5 or even i7 level. Gonna tell me a 1090T is better than a i5? If fou want percentage, the 8350 is about 40 percent better than a 1090T. Check this out:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8350+Eight-Core
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Phenom+II+X6+1090T

Glad you got it fixed Joshua, and don't worry, the 8350 is definitely a upgrade ;)
 
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THanks for the tip... For some extremely annoying reason this morning when I fired up my machine the stuttering started again.. I played for hours last night after DLing the package update and had no problem, game ran great... whyy!?
 
PCunicorn said:
That is a ridiculous statement. A 1090T was similar to a 8120, no worse and no better. A 8350 is i5 or even i7 level. Gonna tell me a 1090T is better than a i5? If fou want percentage, the 8350 is about 40 percent better than a 1090T. Check this out:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8350+Eight-Core
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Phenom+II+X6+1090T

Glad you got it fixed Joshua, and don't worry, the 8350 is definitely a upgrade ;)
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WHat? You're on a nother planet if you think the 8350 is the same as a i7 or i5. Not even close. http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/11/06/amd-fx-8350-review/6

AMD remains deeply uncompetitive in primarily single threaded applications such as games without offering the significant benefits in multi-threaded applications you’d expect from a chip boasting eight cores. Peak power consumption remains higher than Intel too and it’s these fundamental issues that mean the FX-8350 just isn’t a competitive CPU. Despite the drop in price, there’s almost no reason to opt for the FX-8350 in comparison to the Intel competition; it seems that while AMD’s changed lots of little things about the FX-8350, the end result remains largely the same.
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http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/11/06/amd-fx-8350-review/3
Better then the i5 in rendering. In gaming, the i5 was slightly better. Also the i5 i $50 more. AND, does that look like a downgrade from the 1090T to you?
Crysis 3:
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i5 was slightly worse, add the extra couple FPS for a 3570K, the 8350 is defiantly just SLIGHTLY worse, not noticeable. And in rendering, probably not noticeable that the 8350 is better. Intel fanboy are ya? I am not a fanboy of either, though I admit I have a little bias towards the 8350. Also, the 9350 has much more OC potential over a 4670K or 3570K.
 
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Thanks for the vote of confidence PC unicorn!

Im confident in the FX 8350. I know its not top of the line but i take value over power, no need to build a super computer to play FFXIV...

Another update - I turned off some things that start up in the backround using MSCONFIG and reset my machine.. Asus Suit II was one of them (my guess is that has something to do with it)... Seems my game runs well again.. I'm not sure how long that will last but figured I would mention it just in case anyone is having a similar issue.
 
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Dude, talk about cherry picking yoru benches.

The first link shows the 3770K significantly faster at the same clock speeds, and the 8350 about the same as a much lower clocked i5. The same benchmarks further down show the 1100T to be better.

Then youre comparing a 8350 at 4GHz to stock i5 and i7 at 3.4Ghz etc. Even then its only 9FPS more than the 1100T. Give me a break. You put the 3770k at 4GHz also and it will rape the 8350. Anyone who says otherwise is the fanboi not me.
 
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kinda getting off the rails, but yea, what oke says is true. games dont really make much diff, its basically the GPU doing the work, do a cpu bound test and the AMD chip will get its transistors handed to it.
 
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