Same old same old

let me put it like this. AMD sucks. If I do not get a 5870, then it is going to be a Nvidia that out performs it. Since the only ones that do out perform it are the 470 and 480 (guessing on the 470), then I will have to out more to get a PSU too.
Your trying to get me to upgrade farther than I need or want. A 5870 will run everything I want. I am not paying for what I don't need, and I sure as hell ain't going to buy something newer than an introduction DX11 card if I can keep from it. There is no limit of 5870s and 480s out there. Newegg still carries new 480s, maybe refurbished, but same basically. Again, 470 or 480 will need a new PSU, so it is one or the other. 5870 is a top of the line card that will run on my PSU.
 
Wasn't trying to push them or anything, just felt like looking and was showing them to you, not really getting your issue here but i don't care so we'll just leave it be. I will say that a modxstream 600w could easily run a 480 or 470, not the greatest thing but not bad at all, 2 25amp rails push 600w total, the 480 furmarks 480w from the wall, and some of that is on the other rails, si ut's fine. Not going to argue any, just letting you know that bit
 
It is only 504 watts on the 12 volt rail. That means it is 42 amps. You also have to take into account for the processor that is 95 watts leaving only at a maximum 409 watts and 34 amps for the graphics. You need 40 amps assuming your quote of 480 watts is accurate. even if you add the processor into that, 40 amps is far too close to the max for my liking. I am not going to run at max draw for long, it will blow something up, ending in a lot more than just a GPU and PSU to replace.

My issue here is that every time someone helps me and we get the list pinned down, someone else comes in and says it is not good. I might as well go to the end of my rope and let the PC set there consuming power and run the Xbox for games, which will be nothing gained and a lot lost.

Nothing is really wrong with the newer cards except for the fact that every time one is good enough something new comes out and makes it crazy to have gotten it. I bet as soon as I get a 680 something new will bow it out of the water for the same price.

I am drawing the line with my money here. It is a 5870 or a 480. Anything more is just throwing petrol at the fire. I do not need anything more. I will not get anything more.
 
okay, looking around I found a 480 for not much more than a 5870, its 190 with shipping, which is cheaper than even the cheapest used 570 which is about the same card more or less. I m seeing that the recommended PSU for a 480 is 42 amps and 600 watts. mine fits these, but only just (literally, 42 amps and 600 watts exactly). Will I be fine for a month with this? The plan is a 580 or maybe 670 later if I can and use the 480 as physics maybe. Or just fold on it. Not sure. Still thinking.

So all that is for sure right now is a 2600k, a cooler, and the Switch. Need a desk, and GPU maybe. I can wait on the GPU if necessary.

What I am looking at I guess is:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-Corpor...eo_TV_Cards&hash=item3cc82a0fc9#ht_829wt_1396

secondary choice
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PNY-XLR8-Pe...eo_TV_Cards&hash=item4ab960fa87#ht_500wt_1413

others that caught eye:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ATI-Radeon-...eo_TV_Cards&hash=item33784c18c6#ht_483wt_3694
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sapphire-Ra...eo_TV_Cards&hash=item2ebfced54f#ht_500wt_1413
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NVIDIA-QUAD...833?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item25725cb761

thats about all of them that caught my eye. Not sure which I really want. I like the 480, but am kinda worried of using the PSU at max constantly.
 
the 480 should be fine on it, with 42 amps it still has a bit of wiggle room (just over 500w and furmark will use ~480 from the wall), but on games (crysis was their bench) it topped out at 421 from the wall, it should be fine
 
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For the win! lol. Got it for 2.5 more than the 5870 I originally wanted, but the shipping is $3 cheaper, so completely, its less than the 5870. :)
 
I hope your joking. lol.

Yep. Should be good I rekon. Now just figuring how to get a desk and put a new plug in my room to move the computer over where I want it.
 
I hope your joking. lol.

Yep. Should be good I rekon. Now just figuring how to get a desk and put a new plug in my room to move the computer over where I want it.

hey, you were ready to spend 190 and i got it for you for 162.45, don't you think i deserve 7.55 :P

yes i'm kidding but hey, you could always do it anyways :P
 
okay, so got everything this month. Looking to get a new case and PSU. Still do not know quite what I want there.
PSU I am looking at:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139014
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341053

cases:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139013
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139012
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146072
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147107

but none of these fit just right. I am looking to get something that is more or less teh size of a 912, it is big enough. But it needs to be square, like a box, with no windows. And needs no LEDs at all, they are a deal breaker. and it needs the rubber covers over the cable management holes.
 
Im not really sure. I have to be sure of what I am spending in August so I can get all my stuff for school too. :/ Need a P67 motherboard, maybe Z68 or Z77 if there is one out there with 3 PCIe x16 slots and 2 PS2 ports. Would like to have a FDD socket too, but I think they are getting hard to find now, not the drives, the disk themselves.

Also need a better PSU, prefer full modular, but a bit cheaper than above stated.

Cases, I am keeping the HAF for a little longer, just to save funds.

got an idea to get a SSD or maybe another small hard drive to store just windows, nothing else. That way when I need to switch motherboards for whatever reason like today, I can get all my games and everything still there, and just reinstall on the SSD? or does it not work that way? Maybe store the full downloads on a specific partition of the hard drive so reinstalls do not take 8+ hours like this one is.

okay, should be good. Unless there is anything you think would be epic in there for $50 or less jonny and vista.
 
Firstly can I ask why you want a 1000W or 1250W power supply? I know you're running a 480 and they're power hungry, but they're not *that* power hungry. Is it because you can only get fully-modular PSUs when you start to go that high in wattage?

Most newer boards don't even have any PS/2 ports at all and certainly no floppy disk drive connectors. I think ASRock may have made a P67 or Z68 board which had PS/2, but I've not seen floppy disk drive connectors on boards for a while. Why do you need a floppy disk drive connector?

Not sure what you mean about the hard drives and Windows. If you're asking if you can install Windows on a drive and leave it and use it for emergencies on different boards, no, that won't work. It would likely blue screen because all the hardware is different.

I know you're keeping the HAF, but have you looked into the Carbide 300R? Has almost everything you wanted out of a case. Box-like, no LEDs, no side window, not sure about the rubber cable management grommets though, probably has them. It's 80 bucks from Newegg.
 
Firstly can I ask why you want a 1000W or 1250W power supply? I know you're running a 480 and they're power hungry, but they're not *that* power hungry. Is it because you can only get fully-modular PSUs when you start to go that high in wattage?

Most newer boards don't even have any PS/2 ports at all and certainly no floppy disk drive connectors. I think ASRock may have made a P67 or Z68 board which had PS/2, but I've not seen floppy disk drive connectors on boards for a while. Why do you need a floppy disk drive connector?

Not sure what you mean about the hard drives and Windows. If you're asking if you can install Windows on a drive and leave it and use it for emergencies on different boards, no, that won't work. It would likely blue screen because all the hardware is different.

I know you're keeping the HAF, but have you looked into the Carbide 300R? Has almost everything you wanted out of a case. Box-like, no LEDs, no side window, not sure about the rubber cable management grommets though, probably has them. It's 80 bucks from Newegg.

he wants to go triple 480's later on, at least double.

i think the majority of motherboards have at least one PS/2 port, and wolf, why not just get a new mouse or keyboard? i know this POS can't hit more than like 2 buttons in an area before it starts beeping and not reading a button, i think usb boards handle a lot more, but it might just be how old and crap this is.

I'd get a Agility 3 60GB for sure, can get them for like 55 sometimes, it's worth it.
 
Triple 480's?! Does he realise how useless that would be? Okay, 2 480s, great, but 3 will only give a slight difference over 2. One 670 would beast 3 480s for around the same price, and give better folding.
 
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