Same old same old

byteninja2 said:
Triple 480's?! Does he realise how useless that would be? Okay, 2 480s, great, but 3 will only give a slight difference over 2. One 670 would beast 3 480s for around the same price, and give better folding.
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Wrong, 2 480"s will destroy a 670 folding.
One 480 would be a close match.
Where did you get that info?
 
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vistakid10 said:
I have my doubts that a single 670 would be faster than 3 480s in SLI...
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it's nowhere near as fast, idk where the hell he keeps getting these numbers, he keep also saying the 670 is faster than the 7970GHZ which ties the 680.

double 480's is close to double 580's which kills the 670.
 
vistakid10 said:
Yeah I did a quick Google search and I saw that two 480s are faster than a single 670, so yeah three 480s would definitely own a single 670.

The 670 performs closer to the 7950 than the 7970 (see http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/550?vs=598), and the 7970 is usually faster than a 670, but granted, sometimes the 670 is a little faster in some scenarios (see http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/508?vs=598).
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yeah but when comparing amd to nvidia it always goes back and forth since some games are made for nvidia. But he claimed that the 7970GHZ was 3% slower than the 670 at least, look at this!

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/618?vs=598

it kills it really overall, they tie a good bit but it wins a good bit and never really looses to it.
 
I agree, in the vast majority of benches Anandtech ran, the 7970 GHz Edition came out faster than the 670. Not really a surprise since the stock 7970 is usually faster than a 670 anyway. :/
 
Oh, triple 480s deffinatly beat a 670, but it really is useless to have 3 cards, because a 680 is worse IN BENCHES, how amny games even take close to full advantage of tri sli? None. Not to many even take advantage of tri sli. 2 480s WILL NOT beat a 670. 2 580s is almost with a 680, much less a 480.
 
My dear cheese, your right. My info was based, um, forgot the site, but your right. I thouht 2 480s would lose to 680 no matter what, but? http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1511766&mpage=1 I had no idea. Oh cheese. Though, 3Dmark, is great with SLi, in many games a 680 will win, but in many games, not by much. I cant wait for 660's come on, 2 of those in SLi will BEAST! http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-580-sli-review/6 vs http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-680-review/20 A 680 wins?
 
jonnyp11 said:
he wants to go triple 480's later on, at least double.
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this is the main reason. but I may only do double

jonnyp11 said:
i think the majority of motherboards have at least one PS/2 port, and wolf, why not just get a new mouse or keyboard? i know this POS can't hit more than like 2 buttons in an area before it starts beeping and not reading a button, i think usb boards handle a lot more, but it might just be how old and crap this is.
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OT and I know we have been over it before. wolfE The e is part of the first name. Not part of the middle name, which is Alan.

Back to the topic. Because it has nothing to do with my current mouse and keyboard. I want to work with reactOS which at this time has little to no USB support in the setup phases. Can run a USB driver later, but that helps none at this point.

jonnyp11 said:
I'd get a Agility 3 60GB for sure, can get them for like 55 sometimes, it's worth it.
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It is really not worth it. It is not about the speed. I am fine with a 7200 RPM drive. However, it is about separating my data from the OS so that reinstalling does not take everything with it.

byteninja2 said:
Triple 480's?! Does he realise how useless that would be? Okay, 2 480s, great, but 3 will only give a slight difference over 2. One 670 would beast 3 480s for around the same price, and give better folding.
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Do you realize how useless your advice is? Please do some research before you talk.

MyCattMaxx said:
Wrong, 2 480"s will destroy a 670 folding.
One 480 would be a close match.
Where did you get that info?
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Agreed. 1 480 is awesome (when you set the computer to not turn off after 20 minutes of "idle". 2 would be the ownage of everything minus some 580s but they would not be too far ahead as they are only 32 cores ahead.

jonnyp11 said:
it's nowhere near as fast, idk where the hell he keeps getting these numbers, he keep also saying the 670 is faster than the 7970GHZ which ties the 680.

double 480's is close to double 580's which kills the 670.
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Again agreed.

byteninja2 said:
Oh, triple 480s deffinatly beat a 670, but it really is useless to have 3 cards, because a 680 is worse IN BENCHES, how amny games even take close to full advantage of tri sli? None. Not to many even take advantage of tri sli. 2 480s WILL NOT beat a 670. 2 580s is almost with a 680, much less a 480.
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Are you kidding me. Games is why I should go for a card that is newer? I cab game just fine on a 4870. No need for anything else. Your advising for something you have no ****ing clue about. Get off my thread now.

claptonman said:
You can buy PS/2 to USB adapters, if need be.
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They still run off the USB bus and would read to the OS as a USB card. There are PS/2 PCI cards out there, but from what I have seen most of them are PCI to USB with an adapter to PS/2 and still read to the OS as USB which is useless on reactOS as it out of the box has no USB support.
 
Again, you based it off a freaking benchmark and a review based on games. I DON'T CARE ABOUT GAMES. anything else you say in this thread is being ignored. And saying cheese is no better than saying !@#$ for F*** we still know what you are saying and it is still breaking the rules. but whatever. Get off the thread.
 
And look at the damn benches, most of them are games but there are also plenty of other programs too and in all of them the 480's beat the 670 and 80, it doesn't matter what it is, most everything supports sli and anything that doesn't will most likely be updated to support it through patches or drivers.
 
wolfeking said:
Again, you based it off a freaking benchmark and a review based on games. I DON'T CARE ABOUT GAMES. anything else you say in this thread is being ignored. And saying cheese is no better than saying !@#$ for F*** we still know what you are saying and it is still breaking the rules. but whatever. Get off the thread.
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Settle down mate, ive had infractions for far less ;)

If you're just folding, cant you put any other gpu in there? SLI is not needed.
 
720p now, 1080p later. I am not worried about gaming. As I said, the 4870 games what I do just fine. I would try the BF3 on the 2600k (stock) and 480, but I need to try and get my system working with it again. But eh.

Folding a 480 is just fine. 2 will be double as good. 3 will be triple as good. But I think what I will do is run 2 in SLI (i head folding don't like it) and do 1 just by itself for physics, folding or whatever it needs.

What I am mainly trying to find now is a motherboard that fits just right to replace the extreme 4.
 
bigfellla said:
Settle down mate, ive had infractions for far less ;)

If you're just folding, cant you put any other gpu in there? SLI is not needed.
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From all the forums and chatter about folding in SLI the consensus is to not run in SLI because you wind up with a lower ppd than running them as separate clients.
I have not tried it myself but I trust the many people that turn off SLI mode for folding.
 
bigfellla said:
If you're just folding, cant you put any other gpu in there? SLI is not needed.
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I am not just folding. I am also running some games and using Blender (CAD). And I don't think I would do very well putting just any other GPU in there. A 480 I would match to a 480. It looks better, and when running games (which I do sometimes) I can actually use SLI.

Plus, could I not just pull the SLI bridge when not gaming or modeling? or would that mess up the system?
 
okay, so building a list now I think. Starting with a basic list. Budget of ~650 that gives me 200 for school supplies and whatever else I need.

Keeping for now:
HAF 912 Redneck mod
EVGA GTX 480
1TB seagate
LG DVDRW drive
212 evo
8GB RAM DDR3-1600 CAS9
6 fans

plans:
motherboard
If it comes back into stock.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157240
I like this board. It is P67 and old school. Meaning it has 2 PS/2, ATA100, Floppy, and looks cool.

If not in stock then
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157265
but I do not trust this one. It looks to be the same exact thing I have just 2 PS/2, floppy, and P67. The one I have is sucktastic as it has went down twice now.

SSD:
Depends on what I need as far as a lappy can go. If I don't get one this month, then I can get http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227706 or I will go to 2 60GB drives if I get a lappy (one for each)

FDD/card reader
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820192022
If I have the port, I am certainly going to try to fill it. Plus I can back up most of my word work on them.

Actually that is all I can think of right now. does it all look good? It budgets to ~350 assuming the fatality board.

edit, some extenders are needed.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812201028 x2

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812200121
to relieve stress on the connector

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812200124

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812123321

should be fine now. now budget is ~382
 
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what about going for a different brand of motherboard? Gigabyte do some really nice P67 boards like the UD4/7 that are very trusted and pretty cheap. I don't think they have the PS2 support that you're after.
 
Thats the issue. no one else has PS/2 support at this point. I may just have to get a old system, which is expensive (more power, probably needing some work) to play with reactOS. I know it does not work with either of my laptops, both of them have keyboards that read to the OS as USB. :(

If I was going to get a better board that is not a p67 with PS/2 I would go for a ud5h in Z77. But It has less PS/2 than the extreme 4 Z77 that I had, and no floppy or ATA100.
 
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