Sandy Bridge has DRM

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linkin

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http://blogs.intel.com/technology/2011/01/intel_insider_-_what_is_it_no.php

Wow, I thought I was going to move to sandy bridge. Most definitely not now. Blatant propaganda on Intel's part. It's sad to think of all the premade pc's that will include this...

Basically stops you from legally backing up your movies and media from DVD's. Similar to HDCP I guess.

I'm going to encourage everyone I know not to buy anything Sandy Bridge now.

I really cannot believe Intel would protect a dying business model. Bring on Bulldozer, unless it includes such DRM as well... Then I won't be upgrading for a very long time.

All this DRM doesn't work anyway. All pirates need is a few hours after it's released on DVD/Bluray before it's uploaded to the internet and a capture card.
 
DRM makes consumers lives harder. Those who legally purchase content seem to always have to jump through hoops to get their content to work, while those who pirate get around the protection in a matter of days. If I buy a DVD I should have all the rights to make as many back ups as I like. This isn't even Intel's business really. As a hardware, not a software company, what do they care about people that pirate movies? Not saying I support piracy, but DRM is bad for everyone in my opinion.
 
CardboardSword said:
DRM makes consumers lives harder. Those who legally purchase content seem to always have to jump through hoops to get their content to work, while those who pirate get around the protection in a matter of days. If I buy a DVD I should have all the rights to make as many back ups as I like. This isn't even Intel's business really. As a hardware, not a software company, what do they care about people that pirate movies? Not saying I support piracy, but DRM is bad for everyone in my opinion.
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Exactly. See this image:

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Yeah and that's just movies. I know the SB DRM only really applies there, but its just as bad or worse with games. Case and point being Ubisoft's DRM and suckurom. DRM that makes the consumer's life hell and the pirates chuckle as they use their trouble free cracked content. Its actually easier to crack games than install them legitimately these days.
 
There seem to be a some people commenting who disagree with the very premise of DRM and content protection on a philosophical level. Those those people I say that there is no way this technology is being forced upon you - if you don’t want to use the Insider feature, there is no need to, just avoid the services that use it. It does not affect your own personal content in any way.
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How would that affect you backing up your DVD collection?

The way I understand it, Intel offer this streaming service that will allow you to watch films streamed to your computer. Any DVD's, films bought from iTunes or other providers, streamed TV, all of it can be backed up whenever you like, so it doesn't affect anything...

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Without seeing it in action, I can't say for certain, however, I can already see a flaw and a way in which to get it permanently, backup up and shared
 
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I was trying to play GTA IV and Episodes yesterday. The SecuROM launcher kept crashing. This is the steam version, it shouldn't even have securom because it doesn't come with a disc!

The movie and music industry need to use something like Steam. Steam DRM works because by nature it is beneficial to the user. And if you don't have an internet connection, as long as you've logged on at least once, you can go into offline mode and still play all your games.

@Aastii.

If you insert a DVD, and try to back it up or create a copy for use on your computer only, which you can do under fair use laws, it would simply not work.
 
linkin said:
I was trying to play GTA IV and Episodes yesterday. The SecuROM launcher kept crashing. This is the steam version, it shouldn't even have securom because it doesn't come with a disc!

The movie and music industry need to use something like Steam. Steam DRM works because by nature it is beneficial to the user. And if you don't have an internet connection, as long as you've logged on at least once, you can go into offline mode and still play all your games.

@Aastii.

If you insert a DVD, and try to back it up or create a copy for use on your computer only, which you can do under fair use laws, it would simply not work.
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I would like to see it before I believe it
 
linkin said:
@Aastii.

If you insert a DVD, and try to back it up or create a copy for use on your computer only, which you can do under fair use laws, it would simply not work.
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Where does it say that it "says" that it is only to do with certain media streaming services and does not affect anything outside of these particular services, so why would it not let you backup a dvd that is unrelated to these paid for streaming services?


Either way givin this and the kill switch, this is a slippery slope for intel, i hope amd will not do the same.
 
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hope we can get this cleared up with a def awnser, like alot of you, i was dying to get my pc sold and build a sandybridge unit, but after linkins info not sure now i copy all my dvds to my hdd, so they are backed up but also so i can pick one and watch it from pc without hunting out discs all the time, i dont mind if this drm affects downloaded films as i dont download, but totally write sandybridge off if i cant copy my own purchased films to my hard drive :(
 
Stick to their other processors I guess, they are tried and true anyway. Some technology is fine the way it is, this is what happens when they try too hard. Embrace the older technology!
 
they are not trying hard for us, there trying hard for hollywood that are already ripping us off, think i will actually go for a good i7 system on the 1156 socket, seems the best thing about sandybridge now will be that it will bring last i range prices down a bit.
 
look at amazon's new movie download service called Unbox. the user agreement requires that you allow Unbox DRM software to monitor your hard drive and to report activity to Amazon. These reports would thus include a list of: all the software installed; all the music and video you have; all your computer's interaction with other devices.

What does this mean for the future? No fair use. No purchase and resell. No private copies. No sharing. No backup. No swapping. No mix tapes. No privacy. No commons. No control over our computers. No control over our electronic devices. The conversion of our homes into apparatus to monitor our interaction with published works and web sites.

this is the best article i found about DRM,plz read. here- http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm
 
I will do everything in my power to not buy Intel again if they are selling out to Digital Rights Management. I can understand copyright laws, but push them too far and it just gets out of control. You will not even have control of your own computer anymore. Thank goodness for the Linux Ubuntu operating system as well.
 
i really hope intel loses big on this sandy bridge and all future CPU's that use this DRM.see i was going to build a sandy bridge system but now im going to what till bulldozer hits.
 
This is nothing new. Microsoft has been doing this since it released Vista.


". . . Windows Vista includes content protection infrastructure specifically designed to help ensure that protected commercial audiovisual content such as newly released HD-DVD or Blu-ray disks can be enjoyed on Windows Vista PCs. In many cases this content has policies associated with its use that must be enforced by all playback devices. . . "

This just seems to the direction Microsoft is going in order to comply and protect Hollywood's profits. Personally, I am of the school of thought where piracy is the ultimate form of flattery to an artist. But then that doesn't pay the bills. That being said, I don't own any pirated media but I will probably never play Half Life 2 or anything made by Ubisoft because of overly intrusive DRM schemes. I suppose I might add Sandy Bridge to that list too.
 
This isn't the worst of it. Their new vPro systems have a "kill switch" that works over a 3Gnetwork. They can remotely kill your chip weather it's on or not, from anywhere that has a 3g network, using hardware that's integrated into the system.

Granted, vPro technology is almost exclusively targeted at businesses, and most business machines won't even have this. The fact remains, though, that they've already developed and implemented the technology, and I doubt it will be long before it's made legal to put it on consumer computers. Look what happened to OnStar:

http://www.gadgetreview.com/2009/07/gm-adds-remote-kill-switch-to-onstar-vehicles.html
 
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