raoul_1101
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Could someone clear up the differences between SATA and IDE please?
-Is SATA denoted ATA-300, while IDE ATA-100?
-Is SATA denoted ATA-300, while IDE ATA-100?
SATA vs IDE
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Ambushed
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SATA - Serial ATA is a serial technology instead of being parallel like IDE (Also known PATA - Parallell ATA), SATA is liked more over IDE hard drives because of its speed increase and its small wires that allow air flow instead of big bulky ribbons that the IDE hard drives have.
Can you imagine how much better airflow and how much tidy it would look with SATA cables instead of IDE?
I don't want to go into detail between serial and parallel technology, so you'll have to google it.
Can you imagine how much better airflow and how much tidy it would look with SATA cables instead of IDE?
I don't want to go into detail between serial and parallel technology, so you'll have to google it.
One part is correct there namely the increase seen in air flow with the thinner cables. However despite seeing a faster bus the ATA100 hardware limitations are still seen with the average 7,200 sata model. That's why many go after the smaller capacity WD Raptor models seeing a 10,000rpm over 7,200.
The next stage for hard drives however will not seeing faster spindle speeds due to the physical limitations of the current form of hard drive. A totally new type of storage medium is one thought while the next version of Windows may see a totally new method for file indexing on the current types of drives available. But for now that's strictly rumor until an actual MS release is seen.
For the most part the main differences are cable type and some differences seen with the controller cards on the drives themselves for the 7pin cable over the long outdated ide standard of 40pin/80conductor seen there. The spindles, spindle motors, and magnetic platters in the drives themselves remain the same inside the same basic 3 1/2" housing.
The next stage for hard drives however will not seeing faster spindle speeds due to the physical limitations of the current form of hard drive. A totally new type of storage medium is one thought while the next version of Windows may see a totally new method for file indexing on the current types of drives available. But for now that's strictly rumor until an actual MS release is seen.
For the most part the main differences are cable type and some differences seen with the controller cards on the drives themselves for the 7pin cable over the long outdated ide standard of 40pin/80conductor seen there. The spindles, spindle motors, and magnetic platters in the drives themselves remain the same inside the same basic 3 1/2" housing.
raoul_1101
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ok... is it correct then that SATA = ATA300 then?
and can you put 2 devices on one channel of ATA300 like you can IDE?
and can you put 2 devices on one channel of ATA300 like you can IDE?
You cannot. One SATA port and wire per SATA device. Motherboards usually have 2/4 slots for SATA cables on the mobo.
Geoff
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It's important to remember the "S" on ATA, if you go around just saying ATA300 for instance, people are going to get confused. (IDE = PATA).
And no, one SATA cable only supports one device.
dznutz
New Member
i too wish the companies would standardize their classification system...
i've seen sata as: serial, sata 150, sata 300 (the 150 is first generation and slower than the 300. some pci cards only support 150. so if you have a 300 then you'll have to convert it to 150 by placing a jumper)
i've seen pata as: parallel, ide, ide-5, ata, ata 100
i've seen sata as: serial, sata 150, sata 300 (the 150 is first generation and slower than the 300. some pci cards only support 150. so if you have a 300 then you'll have to convert it to 150 by placing a jumper)
i've seen pata as: parallel, ide, ide-5, ata, ata 100
cohen
New Member
Sata = a lot faster - best way to go for hard drives
IDE = slower... good for DVD and CD drives
My mobo has 2 SATA ports and 1 IDE
But if you need more go and buy a PCI card like many people say.
But not with newer technology SATA is the way to go and i also hear that they are coming up with PATA......???
IDE = slower... good for DVD and CD drives
My mobo has 2 SATA ports and 1 IDE
But if you need more go and buy a PCI card like many people say.
But not with newer technology SATA is the way to go and i also hear that they are coming up with PATA......???
Vizy
New Member
they already came out with PATA. its the same as IDE. and parallel. and ata 100.
someone so graciously even provided a pic:
the top one is PATA.
cohen
New Member
they already came out with PATA. its the same as IDE. and parallel. and ata 100.
someone so graciously even provided a pic:
the top one is PATA.
hhhmm..... well what's going to be next???? (what's the name going to bed???)
Who cares? We'll be happy for now. Whatever comes out later won't become popular till after a few years *ahem* DDR3 *ahem*
raoul_1101
Member
Well, I'm buying a new DVD burning drive... would there be a big difference between PATA and SATA? (I'd prefer SATA, but some people recommend PATA...?)
Geoff
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I don't have a strong preference either way, they both have pro's and cons. SATA theoretically is faster, although DVD Drives don't use that much bandwidth anyways. The only real pro is that they use smaller cables.
The cons would be that some older motherboards may have some issues with SATA drives and not being seen correctly, or at all before the OS loads.
cohen
New Member
I would say SATA being it is good and fast for now... and mobos will do the speed.... and also if you get PATA depending on if your MOBO has PATA ports.
I agree SATA is much easier to work with.
cohen
New Member
i have no idea make sure that it is setup right..... otherwise i would have no idea.
I think there is nothing wrong with the setup, when i installed the mobo driver which is nforce, in the middle of installation there is a warning indicate that would i want to replace the storage driver with the optimized nvidia storage driver or just the windows storage driver.
In the end i choose the nvidia driver and voila, the hard drive gone as a removeable storage. There is no problem with the system so far and the hard drive cant be removed either (which is gladly since i would scared to death if the hard drive can be removed and the system would be crash).
Just a slight annoying to see the hard drive in safe remove hardware.
In the end i choose the nvidia driver and voila, the hard drive gone as a removeable storage. There is no problem with the system so far and the hard drive cant be removed either (which is gladly since i would scared to death if the hard drive can be removed and the system would be crash).
Just a slight annoying to see the hard drive in safe remove hardware.
