should there be 10 running processes? (from drivers alone)

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Captain Kirk

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hi y'all computers out there.
hope your doing alright?

i was just wondering if there is any funny business going on here.
should there be 10 running processes? (from drivers alone)
 
If you are talking about right after a fresh install of windows, most definately sometimes more.
 
It's perfectly normal. You really do worry about running processes and memory usage, don't you? ;)
 
hey punk, guess i know you.
sorry, guess i missed it. you were agreeing with me.
updates or +os = slower.

sorry spirit, guess i didn't read you:rolleyes:
now i know what you meant.
no hard feelings?:P

snails pace, gotcha, between 64-128 Mb ram.

okay, so now that that's cleared up, now we can proceed.
what i was trying to point out was this:
i have never seen drivers use so many running services. like 10. when i had the computer configured with let win configure the network settings, i did not have 10 running processes solely because of my drivers. in fact, on ANY computer that i have had that i have seen for running processes, i have NEVER seen 10 running processes...

"suspicious"

hi hackapelite.
your right, better hardware solves the problem and reduces the "wait" time (slower computer).
besides, oc'n can burn out a computer.

didn't know that linux takes up less ram.
that's strange because the newest linux, or even ubuntu takes up a minimum of 4 gigs, up to 9 gigs? not as sure about linux, but i know that its BIG!

hey there G80FTW,
i just wanted to confirm this info, as it was a rumor that was going around. thanks for putting this to rest. i, too, have not seen any "proof".

"Windows XP was bloated"
i don't know why you would say this. it was only a 1 gig install, where 7 is a 7 gig install, with all the updates.

"Windows 2000 used less resources"
interesting -- never heard that.

"1TB hdd for $60"
holy kowabunga dude! tell me where you are getting your hardware!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dude, me and stars have been able to run fast systems on XP, by experience and by doing it, hands on, where you have not, so unless you sit down and try it yourself, you really should not be saying anything.

my friend S.T.A.R.S.,
i'm glad you found a way to speed up your system with some type of technique. now i know that it is possible, and that if i figure it out, i can make my system run even faster.
just be careful, oc'ing can burn out a computer: possible/faster computer death.

i have 2 gigs ram, it is not about do i have "enough" ram, it is about, is there something "suspicious"?

this is what i was alluding to.
should there be 10 running processes? (from drivers alone)

punk, funny Trilobyte joke there!! just about as good as an awesome 4d card, wouldn't that be nice -- the future?

hi larsch, good to see you.
ram is only good for data processing, the transferring of info, and loading data, but thats the extent of it. ram doesn't help you in any other way. so as to your statement:
"With larger quantities of ram you can do greater things."
this only applies to data, so it only helps you to do greater things for some tasks and some of the time.

claptonman, nice to meet.
your right, stars could patent it and become a millionaire! we should be so hard on him. he could be a genius!! and not all of us are.

when you are saying that new hardware has this and that -- so much ram and hd, yes thats true.
but what is the sense in flying in a plane everytime you want to buy some groceries at the store?
yea, the plane is better and "bigger" technology than a car or bicycle, but does this mean that you NEED it.
it is better to run stuff on a lower technology if its not "needed".
it also makes you better at computers when you learn how to run tech with the least amount necessary, instead of with the standard amount like everyone else.

besides, don't forget that extra "usage" +ram, etc, wears on a computer, and heat is the main cause for computer death, and life expectancy!

its just strange, because before when i "let windows configure your network setting" before and i had internet connection successfully, there was NOT these +10 running processes.

however, the time when i fresh install, and didn't select the "let windows configure your network setting" option, NOW there are +10 running processes.
it doesn't make sense. both times were fresh installs and both installed the drivers so that all drivers were installed.


-- James T Kirk
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You are talking about thwo different threads lol...

I have Ubuntu and Mint on dual boot on my COmpaq V6000 laptop that has only 2GO. It runs smooth on the latest Ubuntu (13.10) and Mint (14). There are some lighter versions like Lubuntu for computers with less specs.
 
first fresh install, and before, never had these +10 running processes.

second fresh install, now +10 running processes.

everyone is saying, ya, its normal. yeas its normal and normal and this and that. yep, said it 4 times:(
is that so?:rolleyes:

okay, then is it NORMAL to have, in the "hide when inactive" section of the computer, almost completely hidden, where you might not see it for months...
Osham the Unvanqwished

?????
NOW WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT IS THAT BEING "NORMAL"?
870MB RAM
NEVER BEFORE SEEN +10 running processes.

--cAptain KIrk
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Are you sure you're not confusing running processes with running applications? Every fresh install of Windows will have running processes out of necessity, processes include things like Windows Explorer, the window manager, networking, and so on. The only other possibility I can think if is that you didn't view processes from all uses on your fresh install, but just yourself (which hides a whole lot of processes since many of them run with special privileges on non-user accounts). Not having any running processes would imply you didn't even have a running system, so having at least *some* processes after a fresh install is definitely normal.
 
hackapelite said:
Are you sure you're not confusing running processes with running applications? Every fresh install of Windows will have running processes out of necessity, processes include things like Windows Explorer, the window manager, networking, and so on. The only other possibility I can think if is that you didn't view processes from all uses on your fresh install, but just yourself (which hides a whole lot of processes since many of them run with special privileges on non-user accounts). Not having any running processes would imply you didn't even have a running system, so having at least *some* processes after a fresh install is definitely normal.
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True.
I was thinking to ask the same thing...
 
hi hackapelite.
your right, better hardware solves the problem and reduces the "wait" time (slower computer).
besides, oc'n can burn out a computer.

didn't know that linux takes up less ram.
that's strange because the newest linux, or even ubuntu takes up a minimum of 4 gigs, up to 9 gigs? not as sure about linux, but i know that its BIG!
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I only just saw this bit.

My sig machine takes around half a gig of RAM after reboot, and I'm not even trying to keep it lean (have a ton of crap loaded up at boot.) I have another old machine with a single-core sempron and 2.5GB RAM running Debian Wheezy that only takes 200MB after logging in to desktop and running task manager. That's on a modern distro, that is, not from over 10 years ago. If I really needed to, I could get it to around ~80MB while still having a GUI. And since GUIs are just unnecessary bloat anyway, plus text based web browsers are so much cooler and there is a fair selection of them on Linux, I could get rid of X, and then I'm down to ~25MB on a fresh install on a minimalist distro.

I bet XP can't do that.
 
hey there hackapelite,
wow 25 MB!!!! that blows xp outta the water. stars, i betcha'll like this one!
though hackapelite, a non gui is a little slower and harder to use -- kind of a trade off.

how are you doing Punk?
i like dual boot:D that's what i have been wanting to set up on my system, just in case of computer failure/error, i have a second back up to restore from.
kind'a kool to use two os's. that's what i like about mint, is that it allows you to have that option, making it easier so you don't need a separate program. i have been wanting to set up Dos as one of the dual boot OS's but have been unable to. i've had errors, wrong version of os to install with and dos 7, nothing:confused:

hackapelite,
first install: i'm not talking about the regular processes that are running from an os install. i had those before. in the task manager. this is where i looked before after i did a fresh install, install ALL the drivers, AND had internet connection. there were no +10 running processes here. that was the last os install. we'll call it the first install.

second install: the second install, after doing the same thing, now for some reason, there were +10 running processes. these had not been there in the first install. i had the first install installed for months, and had looked in the task manager more than a dozen times.

the only thing that i can think of that was done differently between the first install and the second install was the option of --:rolleyes:
"let windows configure your network settings", instead of them being configured by the intel driver utility (which i may have "disabled" last time to get internet).

thanks for the reply stars:cool:
screenshot?
running processes?
http://s786.photobucket.com/user/Galaxlight2/library/Suspicious?sort=3&page=1

do i need these in startup?:
runDLL32
rundll32
eeventmanager
ifrmewrk
zcfgsvc
isuspm
itsecmng
nvcpl
nvmctray
nwiz
stsystra
e_s18E

--cAptain KIrk
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I have seen multiple screenshots in the link you gave me.
Which is it?

I have looked at the last one and according to that one I saw many utilities running and you do not need all of them at startup unless if you want them to run of course.

Usually some drivers have some extra utilities that get installed and they run at startup.You can disable them all if you want.
 
Captain Kirk said:
how are you doing Punk?
i like dual boot:D that's what i have been wanting to set up on my system, just in case of computer failure/error, i have a second back up to restore from.
kind'a kool to use two os's. that's what i like about mint, is that it allows you to have that option, making it easier so you don't need a separate program. i have been wanting to set up Dos as one of the dual boot OS's but have been unable to. i've had errors, wrong version of os to install with and dos 7, nothing:confused:
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Mint doesn't allow you to do that, Grub does :)
 
how're doin' S.T.A.R.S.?
a single screenshot was not able to show ALL of the running processes -- that is why there were several screenshots my friend. all of them are the running processes my friend:P

but you know what i'm starting to think, i'm starting to think that this hcker might not even HAVE a running process, or at least one that shows. it could be almost invisible. its amazing that i even found it in the first place. i think they are using a "server" instead.

i have a possibly, the newest form of getting "inside" that is available today. have not heard of it. no virus detected!
the hcker has 5+ years of experience and only goes online every 3 or so days with a secure computer that is encrypted, so no "usage spikes" can be seen except at random when they come on, so it might be hard to find (by chance when your looking), you can't tell if they are if you have a faster computer.

i don't even think that they used a file virus to get in, i think they are linking directly through a "server", bypassing without the need even for a virus. i have not downloaded any files, so if it got in, it snuck in through a legit program that was already running maybe? or through a newly created "server" conduit.

i now have in the "hide when inactive" section of the computer, almost completely hidden, where you might not see it for months...
Osham the Unvanqwished Server:angry:

because of the newly found development (Osham the Unvanqwished) i cannot go on the internet anymore (safely, so i do not do so). this is what it looks like when i am NOT on the internet -- it is higher when i am.

do you know how to block them?:(

hi punk,
i've done it with mint 7 before twice. but i have NEVER been able to get grub to work. don't understand how to run or install it. it seems useless to me. that is why i dont use it!!!

--cAptain KIrk
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The only thing I can think of, then, is that on your "first install" you were viewing processes of your user account, not system-wide processes (as you can see, most of them do not run under your username.)

I have no idea what you mean by your last post. Block what? What is higher than you? Does it relate to this thread?
 
Captain Kirk said:
how're doin' S.T.A.R.S.?
a single screenshot was not able to show ALL of the running processes -- that is why there were several screenshots my friend. all of them are the running processes my friend:P

but you know what i'm starting to think, i'm starting to think that this hcker might not even HAVE a running process, or at least one that shows. it could be almost invisible. its amazing that i even found it in the first place. i think they are using a "server" instead.

i have a possibly, the newest form of getting "inside" that is available today. have not heard of it. no virus detected!
the hcker has 5+ years of experience and only goes online every 3 or so days with a secure computer that is encrypted, so no "usage spikes" can be seen except at random when they come on, so it might be hard to find (by chance when your looking), you can't tell if they are if you have a faster computer.

i don't even think that they used a file virus to get in, i think they are linking directly through a "server", bypassing without the need even for a virus. i have not downloaded any files, so if it got in, it snuck in through a legit program that was already running maybe? or through a newly created "server" conduit.

i now have in the "hide when inactive" section of the computer, almost completely hidden, where you might not see it for months...
Osham the Unvanqwished Server:angry:

because of the newly found development (Osham the Unvanqwished) i cannot go on the internet anymore (safely, so i do not do so). this is what it looks like when i am NOT on the internet -- it is higher when i am.

do you know how to block them?:(

hi punk,
i've done it with mint 7 before twice. but i have NEVER been able to get grub to work. don't understand how to run or install it. it seems useless to me. that is why i dont use it!!!

--cAptain KIrk
UNknown
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So you belive that all those runnning processes are because someone is hacking you? What?

Grub is the "software"(?) you use to choose your OS when you boot your computer. It's installed as soon as you install Ubuntu or Mint but if you use a single boot OS the booting process doesn't stop at it. It stops only if you have more than one OS installed on it. The installation of Mint (side by side with another OS) installs it automatically so that you'll choose between your two OSes.
 
It's perfectly normal to have 10 running processes at startup. You really need to calm down a bit - nobody is hacking you. :rolleyes:

Now stop worrying.
 
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