Spectre and Meltdown and everything to come

Discussion in 'Computer Security' started by Dnaiel, Jan 22, 2018.

  1. Dnaiel

    Dnaiel New Member

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    So, it looks like we're on the horizon of a grim future for hardware security. Tell me, is it so hard to accept the vulnerabilities inherent in hardware design and instead focus resources in developing software answers, specifically using perhaps AI to monitor and stop hardware exploitation? I'm thinking that's about the only solution strategy that developers could focus on.
     
  2. Margrave Brandenburg

    Margrave Brandenburg New Member

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    Wrong. Just wrong.
    Somebody please explain it to him.
     
  3. Darren

    Darren Moderator Staff Member

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    After you.
     
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  4. Agent Smith

    Agent Smith Well-Known Member

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    Spectre and Meltdown are largly a non issue for your normal desktop. It's servers like the cloud where it will be more of a problem.
     
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  5. Dnaiel

    Dnaiel New Member

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    Well, so far no one has explained it; I have nothing more than denial. But every report I read tells me that desktops are affected. Even Microsoft released patches for Meltdown and Spectre. Straight from Microsoft:

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...your-windows-devices-against-spectre-meltdown

    So is there a source someone can provide to support above denials?
     
  6. Cromewell

    Cromewell Administrator Staff Member

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    The are affected. The impact is simply less than cloud providers. Imagine running a secure VM operating a banking app in AWS and some one spins up another VM that happens to reside on the same hypervisor. This second VM could read the memory of the your banking app. On a desktop this is much less of a concern. Since presumably you are running everything yourself (or as you).
     
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  7. Darren

    Darren Moderator Staff Member

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    To add to this, the security threat is going to be much more profitable/worthwhile for a hacker if targeting an organization (with lots of important and valuable data) veruss your average PC gamer or old lady checking Facebook and playing Candy Crush.
     
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  8. Agent Smith

    Agent Smith Well-Known Member

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    LOL That game needs to die.


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  9. aldan

    aldan Active Member

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    what you got against candy crush sonny boy?lol
     
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  10. Agent Smith

    Agent Smith Well-Known Member

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    Only that its a game that ranks right up there with that of games monkeys play to get food. The psychological aspect is that of slot machines where you are rewarded and keep coming back, mean while you're paying to play with little reward.

    You wanna play an asinine Facebook game, try Texas hold 'em "Sonny boy."
     

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