SPoon feed- Help guys.

vinnybarbarino · Aug 27, 2004

i might be asking too much of your time but i will be a first time CPU builder soon and im looking into a system for gaming (doom3,UT2004,far cry) mainly - budget of about $1000-$1200.
i am asking for a list of parts from newegg as i will buy stuff from there and if you can make a list with added links and specifics (brands/part#) of each parts so i will know what to buy - to make a very compatible system parts list.

i prefer AMD XP or 64
motherboard
case (prefer silver or black)(conservative look)
PSU + fans
video card
hard drive (about 120GB 7200rpm)
DVD rom
CDRW
RAM memory about 1G if possible
all parts/cards for connectivity-wireless ready as well.
sound ill use that of the MB
windows XP pro

hope you can come up with a list with links so i can just fire away and buy without worrying about compatibility.

Praetor · Aug 27, 2004

Timbo · Aug 27, 2004

Well, First of all you might want to wait till AMD gets support for PCI-X. Just because of the SLI ability with these cards.. * atleast the 6600 - 6800 *. This is getting two video cards, and linking them together. You get about 1.8X the performance. I'd also wait for the 6600 GT. About 200 dollars, and should out perform 5950 ultra, and 9800 XT. This is due to be released with PCi-X in september,and AGP in october. I would really personally wait a few months before buying a system.. * I am gonna buy one 'round new year.. *

Motherboard, Asus "A8v Deluxe" 137 Dollars.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-510&depa=1

CPU, AMD 64 3500+ socket 939, 400 dollars, * zipzoomfly.com was 40 dollars cheaper*
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80717-R

Ram, 1 GB of Corsair PC-3200, 150 dollars
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-440&depa=1

Videocard, Radeon 9800 Pro, * I REALLY would wait for 6600 GT *, I believe this has the R360 core so it SHOULD be softmoddable to a 9800 XT. 200 dollars.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-127-127&depa=1

Soundcard, I would Just go onboard.

Case/powersupply, Thermaltake Gaming Tower, 420 watt PS. You could get something less flashy cheaper I'd bet. 110 dollars.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=370458

Harddrive, Seagate Barracuda 160 Gig harddriver, 7200 RPM. 95 dollars.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=101554

CD-RW/DVD drive. DVD 16x. CD-RW 52X24X52. 40 dollars.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=333018

Oh shit. I forgot to switch back to newegg.. Anyways you have the parts atleast. I'm pretty sure I didn't forget anything.. But I really, really must stress that I would wait a few months until the 6600 GT comes out/ 6800's drop in price, AMD PCI-X comes out,and the AMD 64 socket 939 start to drop a little. The prices comes out to a total of.. $1132.. Hopefully your in a state that the site doesn't tax.. :-/, and if you need a floppy you could pick one up or just take it out of your current computer. * assuming you have one *..
Well take it easy..

:Edit: Bastard....! You beat me to it.. Atleast he has two viable options now.. But I think we are pretty much the same.

Praetor · Aug 27, 2004

Well, First of all you might want to wait till AMD gets support for PCI-X. Just because of the SLI ability with these cards.. * atleast the 6600 - 6800 *. This is getting two video cards, and linking them together. You get about 1.8X the performance.

Thats very ambitious for $1200 budget

I'd also wait for the 6600 GT

Most definitely a good call there

Motherboard, Asus "A8v Deluxe" 137 Dollars.

Saw that and actually wrote it down but if you get the A8V ... get the wireless edition (roughly $150) as then you wont need the wireless setup expense. Other than that, you might as well save as much as you can (naturally without skipping out corners)

:Edit: Bastard....! You beat me to it..

Get used to it

Timbo · Aug 27, 2004

And about the 6600 GT's..I didn't mean buy two of them right now. I meant buy one, then possibly another in like a year or two when performances starts to drag.

Praetor · Aug 27, 2004

And about the 6600 GT's..I didn't mean buy two of them right now. I meant buy one, then possibly another in like a year or two when performances starts to drag.

Well naturally, with a budget capped at $1200 one wont be considering (a) two 6600s and (b) an SLI board

Timbo · Aug 27, 2004

Oh yeah.. I overlooked the fact that SLI board prices are prolly be threw the roof.

Praetor · Aug 27, 2004

Yeah its a lot harder to spec a system when we're given a price cap eh?

Timbo · Aug 27, 2004

Even still, a single 6600 GT should perform well. and if not the AGP will still be under 1200.

vinnybarbarino · Aug 28, 2004

what do the internet sellers mean when they say -ASSEMBLED , INSTALLED UPDATED AND TUNED?

If i build my own system - how do i tune the system to where there will be less conflicts?

vinnybarbarino · Aug 28, 2004

also would it be better to just do 512 RAM instead of 1G and put the money on the video card upgrade?

EMO-TOCROSS · Aug 28, 2004

Look at my specs below. The system costed 800$, and I can run doom three almost on ULTRA, and no lag at all. Think about it.... Great system.

Praetor · Aug 28, 2004

what do the internet sellers mean when they say -ASSEMBLED , INSTALLED UPDATED AND TUNED?

Just a bunch of marketing hocus pocus for "building a computer"

If I build my own system - how do I tune the system to where there will be less conflicts?

If you mean hardware conflicts.... choose good parts (which we've taken the liberty of doing)....if you mean software conflicts .... the internet sellers wont do that regardless and you'll still have to do it on your own

also would it be better to just do 512 RAM instead of 1G and put the money on the video card upgrade?

Probably not. The 5900XT isnt a "bad" card by any means (nor is the 6600GT which would be a better route if you can wait till october for the AGP version) .. you'll find the 1GB in DualChannel a lot more useful.

The system costed 800$, and I can run doom three almost on ULTRA, and no lag at all. Think about it

Define "almost". Even when i swap a 6800GT into my system, running on Ultra is still a b!tch at high res. (PS how are you running Dual Channel when you're using three slots...which invariably disables dual channel

). But regardless the setup is good but certainly obsolete (especially so comapred to the setup we've spec'd as well as the nearest P4 setup)

vinnybarbarino · Aug 28, 2004

Praetor,

if i need to cut the price down and go athlon XP - would this cpu and motherboard be compatible with the other parts you listed?

Motherboard Asus A7N8X-E duluxe - $84

AMD athlon XP-3200+ barton $200

This will cut the price down by $250 which can go to an upper level video card - but i dont know how long i can keep this cpu - might get obsolete pretty soon - you think i can go with this for the next 3-4 years?

Praetor · Aug 28, 2004

if I need to cut the price down and go athlon XP -

If you need to cut the price down, i'd go P4C ... certainly not hard to squeeze into $1200 and more performance than the A32s

but I dont know how long I can keep this cpu - might get obsolete pretty soon

Its already obsolete ... you can save more money if you had to by getting a XP2500 or XP2800 and OCing it as they are very OC friendly

vinnybarbarino · Aug 28, 2004

tnx again - ill strongly consider the first recommendation of athlon 64 030 pin $425 and the MSI mobo.
this might last a while - keeping it at leats 4 years before i spend again.

Praetor · Aug 28, 2004

I dunno if you can find them or not but consider looking for lower-clocked A64(Socket939s) ... the 3400+ was the lowest i could find ... i dunno if the 3200 exists as a socket939 or not but that'll save you money. Also if you wait for the 6600GT (Oct) the prices will definitely drop

vinnybarbarino · Aug 28, 2004

Praetor said:
I dunno if you can find them or not but consider looking for lower-clocked A64(Socket939s) ... the 3400+ was the lowest i could find ... i dunno if the 3200 exists as a socket939 or not but that'll save you money. Also if you wait for the 6600GT (Oct) the prices will definitely drop

im currently being tortured, tormented by my dell P3 dimension 4100 - it has a 128 ram and has an ATI 32 mb video card 7200 series.

im going to upgrade it a bit as i found a cheap ati radeon 9200 for $25 here at a garage sale - and ill upgrade the RAM - ill add another 256 MB to the 128.Ill use this computer for email - websurfing , and old games .

the new one im going to build will be strictly for newer games and office application + plaing some movies on dvd.

Praetor · Aug 28, 2004

I think waiting a month is worth the wait but it's your money, your call

Timbo · Aug 28, 2004

It's definetly worth the wait... I'm planning on upgrading in december - Feb

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