The future OS

Until installing software onto linux onto linux is as easy as it is on windows, I doubt linux will be anything more than the less than 1% market share it is today. I also think that the constant upgrades of a distro is a pain. Ubuntu updates every 6 months. I find that some of the older tutorials (from say Fedora 8) is no longer completely compatible (to say Fedora 10). It took me literally all day to figure out how to update to Open Office 3.0 in Ubuntu 8.04 its not even funny.

As much as I LOVE Linux, I'd rather use Windows 2000.
 
Well, when you get a service pack in windows, which is probably every 6 months also.
you get:

-less viruses
-ability to connect to the internet

when you get a new distro of ubuntu you get:

-faster boot time
-new interface
-more stability

I know which one id prefer.
 
teh_motch_master said:
Until installing software onto linux onto linux is as easy as it is on windows, I doubt linux will be anything more than the less than 1% market share it is today. I also think that the constant upgrades of a distro is a pain. Ubuntu updates every 6 months. I find that some of the older tutorials (from say Fedora 8) is no longer completely compatible (to say Fedora 10). It took me literally all day to figure out how to update to Open Office 3.0 in Ubuntu 8.04 its not even funny.

As much as I LOVE Linux, I'd rather use Windows 2000.
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You should have used APT then, the package manager in Ubuntu. It will automatically check for updates and apply them if necessary. I do agree with you though that package management can be a huge pain in Linux.
 
jashsayani said:
Future OS is Mac OS.
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Not a chance. Because Mac OS will always only be for Apple computers and laptops.
They have no interest in selling for a system that is not manufactured by them. This
is how they can get customers.

gamerman4 said:
in the future the will be Chrome OS :D
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I think that is what it comes down to. An online company the size of Google is going
to create a free operating system. It won't be as difficult to use as Ubuntu, and it
will perform better than Windows.
 
tlarkin said:
You should have used APT then, the package manager in Ubuntu. It will automatically check for updates and apply them if necessary. I do agree with you though that package management can be a huge pain in Linux.
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Yuep, apt is pretty great. All it takes to update is two commands.
Code: 
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

First command updates the repos, second applies the updates.
 
i've heard that Linux is more powerful than windows and is free of viruses, unlike windows.
when you're on linux, you don't have to worry about anything.

that's what i've been told.
 
vinnie107 said:
Well, when you get a service pack in windows, which is probably every 6 months also.
you get:

-less viruses
-ability to connect to the internet

when you get a new distro of ubuntu you get:

-faster boot time
-new interface
-more stability

I know which one id prefer.
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Ya, a new interface. I'll be like a Vista every year.

tlarkin said:
You should have used APT then, the package manager in Ubuntu. It will automatically check for updates and apply them if necessary. I do agree with you though that package management can be a huge pain in Linux.
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Motoxrdude said:
Yuep, apt is pretty great. All it takes to update is two commands.
Code: 
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

First command updates the repos, second applies the updates.
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You really think I didn't use apt package manager? APT didn't work (For some odd reason), so I had to do all this crazy manual stuff.
 
Elidicious said:
i've heard that Linux is more powerful than windows and is free of viruses, unlike windows.
when you're on linux, you don't have to worry about anything.

that's what i've been told.
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Windows is the most bloated slowest OS out there that is currently being developed. It has more lines of code than anything out there. It is also developed in a manner with tons of backwards compatibility which also makes it bloated and allows developers to be lazy.

The thing is that an OS has to make money. The powers that be that run technology companies are still using the same old and busted marketing solutions they have for decades now. No one wants to be brave and venture into new waters. The open source market makes over 500 million dollars per a year and if perhaps marketed better it could make more.

I think that in the next 5 years you will see a market shift and Macs will have probably 20 to 25 percent of the market share, with Linux having around 5 percent and Microsoft having the rest. This of course is not counting servers, Unix/Linux will most likely still dominate the server/networking market.
 
tlarkin said:
Windows is the most bloated slowest OS out there that is currently being developed.

My pc is not slow at all.


I think that in the next 5 years you will see a market shift and Macs will have probably 20 to 25 percent of the market share,

Not when people can still buy machines for half the price, that will do the same taks. There's no "value" when buying a Mac.
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Just my opinion.
 
Bodaggit23 said:
Just my opinion.
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How do you explain the market jump from what less than 4% to nearly 10% in less than 5 years since OS X came out? Also, you aren't considering what an average user wants to do with a computer. gaming is a niche market, most computer users don't play games. Most of them want music, email, internet and office productivity, and the Mac product makes that easily accomplished plus with the iPod it makes it even easier.

macs also hold their resell value a lot longer and last a lot longer than a PC does. Show me a 5 year old PC that can run Vista? A 5 year old mac can run 10.5 fairly decent and they can run it with Aqua enabled.

There are many many factors involved and I am pretty sure Apple will keep gaining market share.

After all competition will drive Microsoft to make a better OS. Yes, Windows is the slowest OS out there period, and it is bloated because of it's backwards compatibility, you can't have it both ways. All that legacy code causes bloat, and if you compare it to any other OS it does run the slowest.

The new Ubuntu has like a 12 second cold boot time on standard hardware, that is pretty impressive.
 
tlarkin said:
How do you explain the market jump from what
less than 4% to nearly 10% in less than 5 years since OS X came out?
I don't need to explain anything, I was stating an opinion,
just as you did when you speculated about the growth of their market share.

Also, you aren't considering what an average user wants to do with a computer.
gaming is a niche market, most computer users don't play games. Most of them want
music, email, internet and office productivity, and the Mac product makes that easily
accomplished plus with the iPod it makes it even easier.

Exactly my point.
Who needs a high dollar Mac just to surf the web and check email?
Only people with more money than brains, IMO.

macs also hold their resell value a lot longer and last a lot longer than a PC does.
Show me a 5 year old PC that can run Vista? A 5 year old mac can run 10.5 fairly
decent and they can run it with Aqua enabled.

Who cares about resale when technology changes as fast as it does?

Yes, Windows is the slowest OS out there period, and it is bloated because of it's backwards
compatibility, you can't have it both ways. All that legacy code causes bloat, and if you
compare it to any other OS it does run the slowest.

Like I said, my pc is not slow by any comparison, and I run Windows Vista x64.

The new Ubuntu has like a 12 second cold boot time on standard hardware, that is pretty impressive.

I have Jaunty on my laptop and it's ok. Very nice for a free OS, but it will
never replace Windows for me.
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So yeah, the beauty of the opinion.
 
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Thank you Shlouski for this interesting subject “The future OS”.

I’m not a computer guru but I would like to enrich the discussion on this subject.

I don’t think Microsoft OS, Windows, will keep its dominancy over OS for long. There is the forthcoming Google Chrome Operating System.

Google Chrome OS, as it was announced, will be free open-source application and is supposed to be available for consumers in the second half of 2010.

Speed, simplicity and security are the claimed key aspects of Google Chrome OS, Users don't have to deal with viruses, malware and security updates.

Users’ data will be accessible wherever there is a Web access. Users don’t need to back up their files, to configure their computers to work with every new piece of hardware, or need to worry about constant software updates.

But what about the downsides of the highly Web-based Google operating system? Do you like the idea of all your important data being saved at Google’s servers? Also what if you don’t have a Web access? All Web-based applications depend only on the user having web access.
 
Desktopzine said:
But what about the downsides of the highly Web-based Google operating system? Do you like the idea of all your important data being saved at Google’s servers? Also what if you don’t have a Web access? All Web-based applications depend only on the user having web access.
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All reasons why it will not take over Microsoft's top spot.
 
teh_motch_master said:
Until installing software onto linux onto linux is as easy as it is on windows, I doubt linux will be anything more than the less than 1% market share it is today. I also think that the constant upgrades of a distro is a pain. Ubuntu updates every 6 months. I find that some of the older tutorials (from say Fedora 8) is no longer completely compatible (to say Fedora 10). It took me literally all day to figure out how to update to Open Office 3.0 in Ubuntu 8.04 its not even funny.

As much as I LOVE Linux, I'd rather use Windows 2000.
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sudo apt-get install <name of package>

Presto.
 
Now I see that there is a big OS war: Windows vs. Linux vs. MacOS.

There is an old romanian story, this is just a summary:
There were two kids and a nut. The two kids were arguing\fighting who to eat that nut. Another kid came and ate the nut while the other two were arguing\fighting.
Conclusion: When two argue\fight, the third one wins.

So while these 3 OSs are fighting, probably there will be another OS which will win the battle of the best.
But who knows what the future will bring?
 
I use linux for my fileserver, I have three machines with linux here at the house and 2 machines with windows 7 RC ;)

I'm really in a mental bind about whether to buy windows 7 or to go back to linux for my desktop systems. I found I like playing video games more than I thought I did and getting a lot of them to run on linux can be a huge pain in the butt.
 
Desktopzine said:
Thank you Shlouski for this interesting subject “The future OS”.

I’m not a computer guru but I would like to enrich the discussion on this subject.

I don’t think Microsoft OS, Windows, will keep its dominancy over OS for long. There is the forthcoming Google Chrome Operating System.

Google Chrome OS, as it was announced, will be free open-source application and is supposed to be available for consumers in the second half of 2010.

Speed, simplicity and security are the claimed key aspects of Google Chrome OS, Users don't have to deal with viruses, malware and security updates.

Users’ data will be accessible wherever there is a Web access. Users don’t need to back up their files, to configure their computers to work with every new piece of hardware, or need to worry about constant software updates.

But what about the downsides of the highly Web-based Google operating system? Do you like the idea of all your important data being saved at Google’s servers? Also what if you don’t have a Web access? All Web-based applications depend only on the user having web access.
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Chrome OS is not tested, tried, nor has it proved itself at all yet. Anything about their OS will be completely speculative....

Bodaggit23-

I am using facts to make my statements. Apple did jump up in market share which is unheard of in this Microsoft dominated world. No one has ever come close to getting 10% on Microsoft.

Linux is still barely 2% market share, and was at 1% for many years.

Those are facts, not opinions.
 
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