bomberboysk
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Also, if your using your stock cooler...may wanna think about lapping it while your at it, could drop a couple degrees off your temperature as well.
Thermal Paste
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Fatback
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Yea I'm using my stock cooler thinking about get an aftermarket so I can do a little overclocking.
bomberboysk
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Yeah, if you have some time on your hands you could lap your stock cooler and get a little better temps, but nothing like an aftermarket cooler would.
Fatback
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I'll have to do that I think I have some 800 grit and 1000 grit sandpaper so when I get my next day off from work I'm going to do that.
bomberboysk
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You would wanna start with 400, then 600, then 800, 1000, then maybe finish with some 1500 or 2000. You would want wet/dry sandpaper, and you want a smooth glass surface with which to do it on
Fatback
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You would wanna start with 400, then 600, then 800, 1000, then maybe finish with some 1500 or 2000. You would want wet/dry sandpaper, and you want a smooth glass surface with which to do it on
Gotcha will get some tomorrow I was just reading about I guy lapping his CPU and messed it up what an idiot.
bomberboysk
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Lapping your cpu isnt necessarily a bad thing, but if you lap it to the core or dont lap it right, well, then your an idiot.
Fatback
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Yea if you do right you can get as much as a 5C drop but the avg is 3C I don't think I would take the risk though I don't trust myself enough to do that.
bomberboysk
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Heh, back with the pentium 3's and exposed die's i heard of people lapping the insulating glue off to try to get better contact with the die.
Fatback
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Sounds risky
bomberboysk
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One false move and you take a piece of the die with it. Crazy what people would do back then, and look now we have to deal with ihs's, and run lower temps lol.
Fatback
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lol I have a P3 system that still runs maybe I should try it and see what happens
bomberboysk
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Id recommend not.
Fatback
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I was just kidding I would never mess up a perfectly good computer
linkin
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Ok, wow! 4 pages... i expected maybe 4 replies... Anyway, i hear that the best way to apply thermal paste is to put some on the heatshink, spread it, wipe it off, re-apply and then attach to the cpu. That would fill all the microscopic bumps and dips, correct? Is there a better way to apply?
2048Megabytes
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This is how I read how to Apply Thermal Paste:
As mentioned before, I have over clocked to begin with and I am overly-obsessed with certain things, thermal paste being one of them, oddly enough so I've stressed out about finding that 'perfect' application for a long time. First, take a good-quality thermal paste, such as Arctic Silver-5. Place a small amount on the processor and carefully spread it over the entire heat-shield (on the processor, not the actual heat sink). The goal here is to make an even, thin layer, and the end result is no striations/lines. (You're done when you think you can barely see the heat-shield, but it might just be your eyes playing a trick - does that make sense?) My wife watched me spend 5 minutes one time making it perfect, so take your time with it. Now, re-seat the processor in the socket and lock it into place. Once it's in there, carefully put a BB-sized dab of additional thermal paste in the center of the processor. Gently place the heat sink over it and lock it into place very carefully. The pressure from it being locked will spread the BB-sized dab you placed evenly over the core of the Central Processing Units heat-shield.
Allow one week for the paste to cure.
Removing Thermal Paste
Start by removing the Central Processing Unit from the motherboard. Carefully scrape off as much thermal paste as you can with a credit card or razor blade from both the processor and heat sink. Next, take a lint-free cloth (coffee filters work great) and rub away any residue. Keep rubbing away until no more greyish-material is picked up by the filter/cloth. Now, take rubbing alcohol (higher-purity stuff works, too, but rubbing alcohol is fine if you already have it and don't want to buy the other stuff). Put a few drops of it on the filter/cloth and again, keep rubbing until no greyish-residue can be seen. Do this for both the processor and heat sink.
As mentioned before, I have over clocked to begin with and I am overly-obsessed with certain things, thermal paste being one of them, oddly enough so I've stressed out about finding that 'perfect' application for a long time. First, take a good-quality thermal paste, such as Arctic Silver-5. Place a small amount on the processor and carefully spread it over the entire heat-shield (on the processor, not the actual heat sink). The goal here is to make an even, thin layer, and the end result is no striations/lines. (You're done when you think you can barely see the heat-shield, but it might just be your eyes playing a trick - does that make sense?) My wife watched me spend 5 minutes one time making it perfect, so take your time with it. Now, re-seat the processor in the socket and lock it into place. Once it's in there, carefully put a BB-sized dab of additional thermal paste in the center of the processor. Gently place the heat sink over it and lock it into place very carefully. The pressure from it being locked will spread the BB-sized dab you placed evenly over the core of the Central Processing Units heat-shield.
Allow one week for the paste to cure.
Removing Thermal Paste
Start by removing the Central Processing Unit from the motherboard. Carefully scrape off as much thermal paste as you can with a credit card or razor blade from both the processor and heat sink. Next, take a lint-free cloth (coffee filters work great) and rub away any residue. Keep rubbing away until no more greyish-material is picked up by the filter/cloth. Now, take rubbing alcohol (higher-purity stuff works, too, but rubbing alcohol is fine if you already have it and don't want to buy the other stuff). Put a few drops of it on the filter/cloth and again, keep rubbing until no greyish-residue can be seen. Do this for both the processor and heat sink.
linkin
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OK Thanks, sounds good. The HSF is new, so no compound on it. The CPU may have some paste left over... would one of those cloths that comes with mobile phone screen protectors do? you know the ones, that you clean the screen with before you put on the screen protector? I have one of those lying around in a drawer. Would my library card do for removing the paste? It has sharp laminated edges.
Waiting for my dad to come down with that IC7 and my RAM so i can get my build running at least... How mmany degress celcius change would i see with IC7 compared to stock silicon based crap?
Just something i think is weird: If i spread the paste all over the CPU then it would make a mess or get stuck in the part of the LGA775 part that covers the CPU partially... is there another part i'm missing or something? Or is it as simple as putting the CPU in the socket, applying paste and HSF?
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Waiting for my dad to come down with that IC7 and my RAM so i can get my build running at least... How mmany degress celcius change would i see with IC7 compared to stock silicon based crap?
Just something i think is weird: If i spread the paste all over the CPU then it would make a mess or get stuck in the part of the LGA775 part that covers the CPU partially... is there another part i'm missing or something? Or is it as simple as putting the CPU in the socket, applying paste and HSF?
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Kewl Munky
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Theres some Thermal paste called Shin-Etsu,I heard thats realy good but hard to come by.
I use either AS5 or MX-2.....mx-2 gets me better temps on my quad.
Edit.....mr bomber beat me to it with the Shin-Etsu recomendation :0
Newegg has shin-etsu ^_^
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835150080&Tpk=shin-etsu
And DO NOT USE THAT CLOTH! You will ruin it with the thermalpaste. Using your library card to remove a majority of the thermal paste would be good and then use a paper towel for touch ups.
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Compound is only for filling in the imperfections between the CPU and Heatsink. The best contact is really metal to metal, but neither the heatsink or CPU surface is perfect.
Never apply compound to the CPU and Heatsink (to much, there is not suppost to be a thick layer between them, your not baking a cake!)
Apply a small rice size amount in the center of the CPU, spread it as thin as possible on the shield, then apply the heatsink. The compound is (only) for filling in the imperfections between them.
Never apply compound to the CPU and Heatsink (to much, there is not suppost to be a thick layer between them, your not baking a cake!)
Apply a small rice size amount in the center of the CPU, spread it as thin as possible on the shield, then apply the heatsink. The compound is (only) for filling in the imperfections between them.
linkin
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I'm happy today! My C2D finally arrived!! well, it only took 2 days, but my build is nearing completion... well if you count integrated graphics and an IDE hard drive. As soon as my dad comes down with the IC-7 and RAM, its going to get vista shoved on it. And nevermind my question about the socket, i though the CPU would be bigger but it isn't.
Is it a good idea to apply some paste to the HSF to fill in the bumps/dips, and then wipe it off? that would, theoretically, fill everything so it has better contact right?
I just hope this C2D works with my motherboard... i took a risk buying it, i hope it pays off!
Is it a good idea to apply some paste to the HSF to fill in the bumps/dips, and then wipe it off? that would, theoretically, fill everything so it has better contact right?
I just hope this C2D works with my motherboard... i took a risk buying it, i hope it pays off!