this one or that one

Welll if he goes with the I7 930, it's future upgradeable to a 970 or 980x hex core once prices come down.
 
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T BE or the Intel Core i7-930?

Come on, you wont need the power of the i7 930 CPU and you also will never need the 'more expensive' Hex-core PII either if the most stressful task the machine will see is gaming. If you really feel the need to choose between the i7 930 or PII X6 1090T then it really is a no-brainer.

Go for a AMD Phenom II X4 965 and spend the money you save on the CPU on a nice GPU.
 
for a set it and forget it installation, go intel, if you want a upgrade path, go amd...thats as far as i look at it right now
 
87dtna said:
Haven't we already been through this? :rolleyes:
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Give it a break, your opinion only! The first Bulldozers will probably (more then likely) be AM3 compatible. The Phenom now doesnt even use up all the HT bandwidth. So if you use a AM3 board you will be stuck with just dual channel (big deal). If the Bulldozer is alot faster clock for clock then the Phenom II, it will be a hell of a upgrade even with out the newer so
called AM3+ quad channel boards. If Intel sent you a bag of poop with the processor you would have 20 reasons why it was a good idea.



This Intel is GOD and AMD is B/S attitude is getting old. Nothing worse then a blindsided fanboy.
 
@ 87dtna and Stranglehold:
Obviously both of you have reasons why you would go AMD or Intel. Just because each of you favors one over the other doesn't mean that the other's opinion is a load of crap. AMD and Intel both have their advantages and disadvantages and everyone has their own opinion on whether AM3 offers a good upgrade path or not. AMD generally offers a lower price than Intel, but Intel is generally ahead of AMD when it comes to the faster architecture. They both also have certain price points where each one offers better price/performance. The point is, there's no reason to argue the same AMD vs. Intel advantages back and forth over and over again, because most of them are a mixture of both fact and personal opinion. I don't think either of you are fanboys, because you both pose reasonable arguments. You can choose either the Phenom II X6 or the i7 and you probably won't be disappointed. Now that we've layed our facts out on the table lets let the OP decide which one he'd rather have.
 
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well what i got out of this whole thing seems to be that they are close to the same. and that both of them are not necessary for gaming? for example some one said get an i5..... well does this mean cpu's are the most important thing for gaming??

o and to the person who said get the i5 750 for 200.....? is that better than the i7...? they are both the same price lol....

so if such a powerful cpu is overkill for gaming.... what do i need to run games smooth.... besides a gpu( going for the 5870) ...?
 
You are probably better off going with the Phenom II Six-Core or the Core i7 930 Processor over the Core i5 750 Processor. The reason why is you will be able to upgrade in the future more readily.

Where can you get a Core i7 Desktop Processor for $200?

For gaming your whole system is important. It is important that you have a good motherboard, processor, video card, RAM, power supply and monitor.
 
osnola said:
well what i got out of this whole thing seems to be that they are close to the same. and that both of them are not necessary for gaming? for example some one said get an i5..... well does this mean cpu's are the most important thing for gaming??

o and to the person who said get the i5 750 for 200.....? is that better than the i7...? they are both the same price lol....

so if such a powerful cpu is overkill for gaming.... what do i need to run games smooth.... besides a gpu( going for the 5870) ...?
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In general, CPUs are a bit more important than the GPU, I think. Considering you're going to get the 5870 anyway, you don't need to go for the i5 750 and buy a better GPU, because the 5870 can pretty much handle anything right now. If the i7 930 is in your budget then go for it. It's a significant amount faster than the i5 750 and you'll be better future-proofed. The LGA 1366 platform will future-proof you a lot better than the LGA 1156 platform also. Personally, I'm still a bit split between which way to go. Going on the basis of not knowing what AMD will do with the AM3 platform, I would go with the i7 930 since currently I see it as the better option at that price point. Realistically, I'm assuming that a mid-range Bulldozer CPU will cost about the same as an i7 980x on ebay by the time you'd need to upgrade anyway, and that they'll be close to the same performance level. Going on that assumption, you may as well just get the i7. It gives you great performance with the guarantee that you can upgrade to something almost twice as fast someday. Let's also not forget about the overclockability of the i7, which would give you some extra juice in the future.

In short, my vote goes to the i7. :good:
 
thank you , i am decided.... but my last question is.... why is a i7 -860 200 dollars more than an i7 930...is it that much better?
 
osnola said:
thank you , i am decided.... but my last question is.... why is a i7 -860 200 dollars more than an i7 930...is it that much better?
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It's because the i7 860 is an LGA 1156 CPU, whereas the i7 930 is an LGA 1366 CPU. The i7 930 is actually faster. It just costs more to make an i7 860, I think. Either that or they charge a premium for its compatibility with the 1156 platform.
 
Yeah thats just why almost no one buys them. The I7 950 is socket 1366's overpriced CPU too.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115211&cm_re=I7-_-19-115-211-_-Product

The only difference is a higher factory clockspeed.


EDIT- err, looks like the 870 came down in price a lot! Same price as the 860 now WTF!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115213&cm_re=I7_870-_-19-115-213-_-Product

Anyway, OP, you want the 900 series I7's, which is socket 1366....NOT the socket 1156 I7's which are the 800 series. Even though thats what I have, and they are still very good, but not as good as the 900 series because they use triple channel memory...plus 1366 boards all do x16/x16 SLI and crossfire whereas 1156 boards only do x8/x8. I have an I7 800 series because I got it really cheap.
 
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