Thread for all my questions! NEW BUILD!!!!

chainzawz

New Member
Heyy guys, the people here at CF, have served me well in the past with all of their informaiton and the such, I haven't been on here for a while so its nice to be back (lol).

Anyways I will be building a new desktop withing the next few months, so I figured instead of me searching through threads and reviving old ones I would created a thread for all my questions, I haven't ever built a custom computer, but I do know my way around the inside of a computer, and I know a good deal about mobo's, RAM, CPU, GPU, all that jazz, anyways I am currently writting down a list of all the parts one needs to create a new desktop. Just for my sake I am writting everything down and the such. The list I have is as follows.


LIST OF PARTS

1. Case
2. Cooling system
3. Power Supply
4. Video Card (GPU)
5. Mobo
6. Processor
7. RAM
8. HD
9. Optical Drive
10. Operating System
11. Sound Card
12. Monitor


Anything else I need? I bet I missed a few things along the way. Right now I am just looking into getting a list of what I need to get the computer up and running, I will worry about case mods such ass neon lights and the such latter.

Now I have a few questions I would like to spend no more than 4000 bucks on this whole build, is that not enough money? I will be using the computer for gaming (duh).

So now onto my list of questions

1. Where can I get these parts cheap, for example any other places other than Newegg, tiger direct, and that other one...

2. Where is a good place to get the cases and the PSU and all the such. (second part of question 1 I guess)?

3. Thats it I guess.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Please recomend anything for the above listed parts, I am not really sure where to go, I know whats good and all and I know what I want to be able to do on it, its just a matter of getting them all bought!

thanks guys!
 
$4000 is probably over what you will need for one good gaming build if you are not going to go elaborate on everything! What is meant by that is going with two $1000 video cards in an SLI or Crossfire setup. Alienware will take your $4,000+ money plus some for building it for you. :rolleyes:

For prices those will vary at times from site to site. One example is the prices seen on the Antec Nine Hundred model case. While retail catches some $140- some sales seen were $80 and a subsequent $70 a month later by one retail store with an online site. www.xoxide.com has about the largest selection of pc cases, server cases, full towers, custom styled, etc. over most.

For cooling xoxide.com competes with newegg and www.coolerguys.com on the selection of different types of coolers for cpus, video cards with xoxide seeing air conditioned cases for the high prices on those. One method for seeing who has what for the best is to go to shopping sites that list several different online vendors for softwares, hardwares, and evem OEM for system builders discounts that can quite a bit less then seen at neweeg, TigerDirect, mwave, Directsoftware, etc.. Nextag, bizrate, shopping.com, and others fall into that catagory.
 
Where can I get these parts cheap, for example any other places other than Newegg, tiger direct, and that other one...

I can't think of any retailers that are cheaper. I bought my entire configuration fron Newegg ($3,725).
 
Thanks for the information guys, once I get all my components picked out I will post back here just to run in by ya'll just to make sure what I picked will all work together and all!
 
Well I am back already, anyways what would you guys recomend for a case that is going to give me enough room for an SLI videocard and mobo to go with it? Also is it worth installing a water cooling system?
 
would you guys recomend for a case that is going to give me enough room for an SLI videocard and mobo to go with it?

Any full tower will do. I like this one.

Also is it worth installing a water cooling system?

I haven't tried it yet. Do your research, and see if your comfortable with the installation and maintenence involved with that type of setup. It's suppose to be the most efficient way to cool your components.
 
hey guys, thanks again for all the info on cases and all the other things! I am actually kind of baffled now as to what kind of PSU would work well in the computer I am planning on building. This is what I have picked out so far. What PSU would power all of the items listed below, plus one IDE HD. Also will I be able to power other items like a water cooler (if I need one) and any other add ons like those cool temp things that go into the CD drive area?


Qty. Product Description Savings Total Price
1
Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16822136075
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy



$49.99
2
ASUS EN8800GTX/HTDP/768M GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814121033
Return Policy: Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy



$1,119.98
($559.99 each)
1
G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ - Retail
Item #: N82E16820231098
Return Policy: Memory (Modules, USB) Return Policy



$114.99
1
ASUS Striker Extreme LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX The Ultimate Gaming Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813131074
Return Policy: Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy



$299.99
1
Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Conroe 3.0GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6850 - Retail
Item #: N82E16819115028
Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy



$299.99
1
Microsoft Windows XP Professional with SP2 - Retail
Item #: N82E16837116195
Return Policy: Software Return Policy

$286.99
 
What PSU would power all of the items listed below

There are several manufacturers that are good. PC Power & Cooling, OCZ, and Thermaltake top the list. For your build, get a PSU with at least 750W, and, at least 60 amps pushing the 12V Rail(s). More amps are better, especially if you plan on running Ultra's.

Modular PSU's are another option. Although I don't believe the verdict is out yet on their efficiency (compared to the standard PSU), I'm sure their pretty good. A modular power supply makes managing cables easier - you only plug in the cables that you need.
 
There are several manufacturers that are good. PC Power & Cooling, OCZ, and Thermaltake top the list. For your build, get a PSU with at least 750W, and, at least 60 amps pushing the 12V Rail(s). More amps are better, especially if you plan on running Ultra's.

Modular PSU's are another option. Although I don't believe the verdict is out yet on their efficiency (compared to the standard PSU), I'm sure their pretty good. A modular power supply makes managing cables easier - you only plug in the cables that you need.

Before assuming any one, two, or three brands tops the list why not take a long look at the recent sticky made for pointing out what are the good and the bad as well as what makes and models are best for the type of build planned. http://www.computerforum.com/90118-useful-psu-guides.html

You will find the information is upto date and quite well prepared when ceewi1 posted this in early July.
 
thanks for all the info so far, I have come up with a setup I would like to run by you guys, the case I am getting has 7 (I think) fans already installed on it. Will that cool all of this...

lol well this is my whole list of things im getting lol


Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
1 NZXT Zero Black/Silver Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #: Zero
Item #: N82E16811146029

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

In Stock
Mail-in Rebate
$159.99 -$10.00 Instant $149.99
1 CyberPower 1090 6 Feet 4 Transformer Spaced 6 Non-Transformer Spaced Outlets 3000 Joules Surge Protector - Retail
Model #: 1090
Item #: N82E16812120408

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

In Stock
$24.99 -$2.00 Instant $22.99
2 Link Depot 6 ft. DVI-D male to DVI-D male dual link Cable Model DVI-6-DD - OEM
Model #: DVI-6-DD
Item #: N82E16812189047

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

In Stock
$9.59 $19.18
1 ASUS Striker Extreme LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX The Ultimate Gaming Motherboard - Retail
Model #: Striker Extreme
Item #: N82E16813131074

Return Policy: Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy

In Stock
$299.99 $299.99
2 ASUS EN8800GTX/HTDP/768M GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Model #: EN8800GTX/HTDP/768M
Item #: N82E16814121033

Return Policy: Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy

In Stock
$559.99 $1,119.98
1 XCLIO STABLEPOWER 1000W ATX 1000W Power Supply - Retail
Model #: STABLEPOWER 1000W
Item #: N82E16817189016

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

In Stock
$289.99 $289.99
1 Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Conroe 3.0GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6850 - Retail
Model #: BX80557E6850
Item #: N82E16819115028

Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy

In Stock
$299.99 $299.99
1 G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ - Retail
Model #: F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ
Item #: N82E16820231098

Return Policy: Memory (Modules, USB) Return Policy

In Stock
$114.99 -$40.00 Instant $74.99
1 Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: WD1600AAJS
Item #: N82E16822136075

Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

In Stock
$49.99 $49.99
1 Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard - Retail
Model #: 967599-0403
Item #: N82E16823126179

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

In Stock
Mail-in Rebate
$71.99 -$2.00 Instant $69.99
2 Hanns·G HW-173DBB Black 17" 8ms DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail
Model #: HW-173DBB
Item #: N82E16824254018

Return Policy: [LCD] Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy

In Stock
$169.99 -$20.00 Instant $299.98
1 Microsoft Windows XP Professional With SP2B 1 Pack - OEM
Model #: E85-04741
Item #: N82E16832116059

Return Policy: Software Return Policy

In Stock
$139.99 $139.99
1 Flight Simulator X Deluxe Edition PC Game Microsoft - Retail
Model #: 9AM00014
Item #: N82E16832116122

Return Policy: Software Return Policy

In Stock
$37.99 $37.99
1 Battlefield 2142 PC Game EA - Retail
Model #: 014633152654
Item #: N82E16832130015

Return Policy: Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy

In Stock
$27.99 $27.99
1 TRENDnet TBW-101UB USB 1.1 Bluetooth USB Adapter - Retail
Model #: TBW-101UB
Item #: N82E16833156115

Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

In Stock
Mail-in Rebate
$16.99 $16.99
1 Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
Model #: ARCTIC SILVER 5
Item #: N82E16835100007

Return Policy: Consumable Items Return Policy

In Stock
$5.99 $5.99
1 VIGOR GAMING CLT-M2I 92mm Thermal Electric CPU Cooler - Retail
Model #: CLT-M2I
Item #: N82E16835702002

Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

In Stock
$129.99 $129.99
1 Creative Inspire T3030 29 W 2.1 Speaker - Retail
Model #: 51MF0315AA002
Item #: N82E16836116007

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

In Stock
Mail-in Rebate
$43.99 $43.99
1 PLANTRONICS Explorer 330 Bluetooth Headset - Retail
Model #: Explorer 330
Item #: N82E16875978013

Return Policy: Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy

In Stock
 
Chainzawz, I don't know if you noticed but alot of your prices are messed up. For example 19.18 for the motherboard:D, 299 for the video card, 300 for the ram. I think you have the prices for the video card and power supply mixed up. The video card should be 1119.98 instead of 299. I just though I let you know.

Since you are spending this much, why not get the quad core processor?
 
Yeah the way I copied the prices makes it look weird, the video cards cost $559.99 a peice, so two of them is $1,119.98 and the PSU is $289. Its just the way the list was coppied, as to your question regarding the processor, is getting a quad core going to make that much of a difference in gaming? I suppose it would but is it going to be enough to make a noticeable difference? What speed quadcore processor should I look at? I originally said I would like to keep it under 4K but now I would like to keep it around 3K.

do you guys think that only air cooling would be good with my setup?

the case I sellected has

1 x 80mm top fan
4 x 120mm side fan
2 x 120mm rear fan
1 x 120mm front fan

Chainzawz, I don't know if you noticed but alot of your prices are messed up. For example 19.18 for the motherboard:D, 299 for the video card, 300 for the ram. I think you have the prices for the video card and power supply mixed up. The video card should be 1119.98 instead of 299. I just though I let you know.

Since you are spending this much, why not get the quad core processor?
 
why not take a long look at the recent sticky made for pointing out what are the good and the bad as well as what makes and models are best for the type of build planned.

Yeah, that's an awesome thread. I'm suprised to see that PC Power & Cooling products didn't make ceewi1's recommendation list.
 
Hey guys, im back again, I think someone mentioned somthing about the power needs of such a setup, well I have a question on that, Will this thing be able to run on a plug in a bedroom?
 
Yeah, i just recommend a grounded outlet.

Have you already purchased?


Thanks for the reply, no I haven't yet, I am holding out for a few months, I will be moving soon so I am packing everything up and dealing with mailing addresses and the such. lol.

I was just curious because I remember someone saying that I would be able to run this computer on a circut with other things so it got me wondering if it would run on a circut for my bedroom. I don't want to go out and get this if it won't run lol
 
It's quite safe if that's the only thing you'll be running off the outlet (or if you'll just be using a few other devices), but if you start adding a whole lot of other equipment to the same outlet you may have problems.

Yeah, that's an awesome thread. I'm suprised to see that PC Power & Cooling products didn't make ceewi1's recommendation list.
Thanks. My only real issue with their products is the price. The TurboCool 1KW used to be the biggest & best PSU you could buy, but that's no longer the case and it still comes with the same exorbitant pricetag (and sounds like a leafblower :)).
 
:eek:
thanks for all the info so far, I have come up with a setup I would like to run by you guys, the case I am getting has 7 (I think) fans already installed on it. Will that cool all of this...

lol well this is my whole list of things im getting lol


Qty. Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price
1 NZXT Zero Black/Silver Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #: Zero
Item #: N82E16811146029

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

In Stock
Mail-in Rebate
$159.99 -$10.00 Instant $149.99
1 CyberPower 1090 6 Feet 4 Transformer Spaced 6 Non-Transformer Spaced Outlets 3000 Joules Surge Protector - Retail
Model #: 1090
Item #: N82E16812120408

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

In Stock
$24.99 -$2.00 Instant $22.99
2 Link Depot 6 ft. DVI-D male to DVI-D male dual link Cable Model DVI-6-DD - OEM
Model #: DVI-6-DD
Item #: N82E16812189047

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

In Stock
$9.59 $19.18
1 ASUS Striker Extreme LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX The Ultimate Gaming Motherboard - Retail
Model #: Striker Extreme
Item #: N82E16813131074

Return Policy: Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy

In Stock
$299.99 $299.99
2 ASUS EN8800GTX/HTDP/768M GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Model #: EN8800GTX/HTDP/768M
Item #: N82E16814121033

Return Policy: Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy

In Stock
$559.99 $1,119.98
1 XCLIO STABLEPOWER 1000W ATX 1000W Power Supply - Retail
Model #: STABLEPOWER 1000W
Item #: N82E16817189016

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

In Stock
$289.99 $289.99
1 Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Conroe 3.0GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6850 - Retail
Model #: BX80557E6850
Item #: N82E16819115028

Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy

In Stock
$299.99 $299.99
1 G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ - Retail
Model #: F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ
Item #: N82E16820231098

Return Policy: Memory (Modules, USB) Return Policy

In Stock
$114.99 -$40.00 Instant $74.99
1 Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: WD1600AAJS
Item #: N82E16822136075

Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

In Stock
$49.99 $49.99
1 Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard - Retail
Model #: 967599-0403
Item #: N82E16823126179

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

In Stock
Mail-in Rebate
$71.99 -$2.00 Instant $69.99
2 Hanns·G HW-173DBB Black 17" 8ms DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail
Model #: HW-173DBB
Item #: N82E16824254018

Return Policy: [LCD] Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy

In Stock
$169.99 -$20.00 Instant $299.98
1 Microsoft Windows XP Professional With SP2B 1 Pack - OEM
Model #: E85-04741
Item #: N82E16832116059

Return Policy: Software Return Policy

In Stock
$139.99 $139.99
1 Flight Simulator X Deluxe Edition PC Game Microsoft - Retail
Model #: 9AM00014
Item #: N82E16832116122

Return Policy: Software Return Policy

In Stock
$37.99 $37.99
1 Battlefield 2142 PC Game EA - Retail
Model #: 014633152654
Item #: N82E16832130015

Return Policy: Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy

In Stock
$27.99 $27.99
1 TRENDnet TBW-101UB USB 1.1 Bluetooth USB Adapter - Retail
Model #: TBW-101UB
Item #: N82E16833156115

Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

In Stock
Mail-in Rebate
$16.99 $16.99
1 Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
Model #: ARCTIC SILVER 5
Item #: N82E16835100007

Return Policy: Consumable Items Return Policy

In Stock
$5.99 $5.99
1 VIGOR GAMING CLT-M2I 92mm Thermal Electric CPU Cooler - Retail
Model #: CLT-M2I
Item #: N82E16835702002

Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

In Stock
$129.99 $129.99
1 Creative Inspire T3030 29 W 2.1 Speaker - Retail
Model #: 51MF0315AA002
Item #: N82E16836116007

Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

In Stock
Mail-in Rebate
$43.99 $43.99
1 PLANTRONICS Explorer 330 Bluetooth Headset - Retail
Model #: Explorer 330
Item #: N82E16875978013

Return Policy: Limited Non-Refundable 30-Day Return Policy

In Stock

With such a high end graphic card, Why are you running with a crappy 17" monitor? Drop one graphic card and get a nice 24" monitor!
 
Just realise you got 2 Monitor??
I don't think you can run 2 monitor with SLi...

Also, for HDD, don't get a 160GB with 8MB cache, get something with 16mb cache!
 
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