ok so i tried to unpartition my hd by deleting it from the disc managment dealy, but the added space didnt go into my C drive, for some reason my C drive has 2 gigs and my D had 78...now i just have a whole bunch of free space that says its unallocated, and my C is still 2gigs big....what do i do?
unpartitioning HD
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Trizoy
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The space need to be added to the C Portion. Think of your original HD as a glass of water. The water was split into 2 sections, or 2 glasses. You have a glass with 78Gb and one glass with 2gb. You cant just remove the glass and hope it will go into the 78gb section. Instead you can use partiion magic and combine the sections. That is IF it is allowed... Usually that 2Gb space is need for the support of the 78Gb...
At least you made far more sense there.
Without a drive partitioning tool like the two mentioned here your other option would be to delete the present 2gb primary someone created being the bare minimum for installing XP onto and create a new one for the XP installer to format when installing a fresh copy of Windows on it. If you don't have a full version copy of XP you would need Partition Magic or a cd writer for downloading the free Linux tool.
If you have a Western Digital drive their LifeGuard tool you use when booting with a floppy can also create and now format NTFS partitions. The tool to use depends on what you have to work with there. Without a full install disk stretching the 2gb primary into the remaining drive space is your only option there.
Which version of GParted did you download? The 0.3.3.0 version seen at the link here is the last "platform independent" version you would use to resize an NTFS type partition. When booting just press the enter key at each prompt until reaching the main gui. http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115843&package_id=173828
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TheMajor
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When shrinking a Vista primary here from 238gb down to about 157gb for a dual boot that didn't work there the return to the 238gb size didn't have any problems after. The thing about the 2gb being increased by 78gb could see problems. Usually shrinking down with a good deal of data on a partition will experience trouble over expanding an existing one. For ease and to insure the best results a new 80gb primary with a clean install of Windows works.
With a drive partitioning tool like Partition Magic a retail software or GParted live for cd you can easily expand the existing 2gb into the remaining drive space. But you would be far better off deciding on one of two ways to go there. You can expand the primary for increasing the 2gb to allow for Windows and programs you plan to install and create a second partition for storing files adding another logical drive or delete the current and create a new primary to utilize all of the space for a single C partition.
How large is the drive itself? 80gb, 100gb? When you have a 120gb drive expect to see 114gb available after partitioning it. For an 80gb you would see 74-76gb max. The figure seen for sizes when buying retail is a rounded figure and you subtract from that for the actual space.
How large is the drive itself? 80gb, 100gb? When you have a 120gb drive expect to see 114gb available after partitioning it. For an 80gb you would see 74-76gb max. The figure seen for sizes when buying retail is a rounded figure and you subtract from that for the actual space.
TheMajor
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The problem is that Windows (and most other software) use GiB (binary system) to calculate the hard disk size, but they wrongfully use the term GB (decimal system).
Hard disk manufacturers are correctly using GB on their labels, because they are actually counting in GB and not in GiB.
I suggest you just re-install Windows and use its setup process to delete the old partition and create a new one.
Hard disk manufacturers are correctly using GB on their labels, because they are actually counting in GB and not in GiB.
I suggest you just re-install Windows and use its setup process to delete the old partition and create a new one.
The XP installer will often leave a few mb of drive space untouched when using that to create new primaries. One little fact on that was clearly seen when using GParted on a second drive and you could see empty space on the primary ide here. That's easy to correct however with a good partitioning tool.
At present GParted has become the default tool here being free as well as having the better hardware detection a Linux tool offers. The free tool can also be used for resizing existing partitions as well as deleting and creating them. The only time you would see a few meg of space unallocated would be when looking in the Disk Management tool after Windows was installed and catching sometimes empty space at the front as well as back of a drive. The mbr and other information is seen in the 100mb of the first active primary on a drive.
At present GParted has become the default tool here being free as well as having the better hardware detection a Linux tool offers. The free tool can also be used for resizing existing partitions as well as deleting and creating them. The only time you would see a few meg of space unallocated would be when looking in the Disk Management tool after Windows was installed and catching sometimes empty space at the front as well as back of a drive. The mbr and other information is seen in the 100mb of the first active primary on a drive.
cbilljones
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I used gparted today on a 7 gig that i need to expand to 17 at work, i used a knoppix live cd for this, as i always have one around
. I did have to reboot into windows and do a dskchk - mainly i think because it was so full, but after rebooting into linux and gparted it worked like a charm.
My point is to run a dskchk before attempting the resize with gparted
. I did have to reboot into windows and do a dskchk - mainly i think because it was so full, but after rebooting into linux and gparted it worked like a charm. My point is to run a dskchk before attempting the resize with gparted
I imagine you find Knoppix Live great for data rescue too! Depending on how many partitions one or two there a new one would see a nice clean drive to work with if the 2gb is cluittered with now useless temp folders. You would see a fresh install go on a clean partition by removing the current 2gb.
It never hurts to run the chkdsk untility and that will start automatically if you have a bad shutdown of Windows. When resizing both XP and Vista partitions alike problems requiring it have never been seen here however. A bad shutdown when some program locks the system will see that used.
It never hurts to run the chkdsk untility and that will start automatically if you have a bad shutdown of Windows. When resizing both XP and Vista partitions alike problems requiring it have never been seen here however. A bad shutdown when some program locks the system will see that used.
cbilljones
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i did have to run "sudo gparted" from a terminal to make this work, it would not load with the right priviliges from the menu option. And yeah, my knoppix discs get used for backup more than anything, or just to demo linux.
The versions used for creation, deletion, and resizing NTFS type partitions are the "platform independent" type. Is that seen on the Knoppix version you are using or simply one of the few found at sourceforge? http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115843&package_id=173828
The newer releases after the 0.3.3.0 version wouldn't start due to the new start x feature seen in those requiring a folder for mounting that auto configuration tool. It does load up quite a bit faster then the older 0.2.8.1.1. and earlier releases.
The newer releases after the 0.3.3.0 version wouldn't start due to the new start x feature seen in those requiring a folder for mounting that auto configuration tool. It does load up quite a bit faster then the older 0.2.8.1.1. and earlier releases.