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Tommo4523

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ive already posted a thread before but now am a little more educated I've got a hp compaq 8000 elite small form factor with an Intel Pentium e6500 cpu dual processor 2gb of ram ( two 4 gb sticks on the way) gt 630 gpu and a hdd 1.5tb for operating system and a cheap hdd for saving gaming recording to going to get an ssd 128gb for operating system and swap 1.5tb as recording drive i'm wondering what not overly expensive changes I can make to make it record games in full he at 30fps.

Thanks Tom.
 
I don't think it will be powerful enough to play and record games at 1080p still... depends what games you want to play though.
 
I didn't think a 630 could even reach 30 fps in most respectable games ;)

Trying to stream and play with an old Core2Duo is going to be an awful experience.
 
E6500 is actually a Pentium. :P

Yeah it's not gonna be quick I'm afraid. Who advised you to upgrade this PC for gaming?
 
The gt 630 without recording can play far cry 4 1080p 30 fps and Garry's mod runs at a consistent 130 fps i'm just looking maybe a gpu upgrade if it can take a quad core so if ther is any ideas plz share
 
I just want to know the minimum upgrades for this to work not getting gtx Titan x or anything huge just enough even processor upgrades or am I better off getting a new pic and if so what's the cheapest pc where I can do those things:)
 
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Tommo4523 said:
I just want to know the minimum upgrades for this to work
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There's a difference between 'barely functional enough to use' and a 'reasonable performance expectation'. Personally, having FC4 at all low settings and scraping by at 30 fps sounds like a visually horrendous and frustrating experience.

I wouldn't blow cash on a SSD when a CPU/Motherboard/RAM upgrade is what your system most badly needs. You might be able to return that DDR2 you picked up and invest that into DDR3 or DDR4 depending on the platform. Is there a particular budget you were looking at?

spirit said:
Who advised you to upgrade this PC for gaming?
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This is definitely something he needs to consider. More often than not it's a better idea to just get a 'new' PC instead of wasting effort/money on outdated equipment.
 
Tommo4523 said:
The gt 630 without recording can play far cry 4 1080p 30 fps and Garry's mod runs at a consistent 130 fps i'm just looking maybe a gpu upgrade if it can take a quad core so if ther is any ideas plz share
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Hmmm I'm not sure about that. Maybe at like the lowest settings but not at anything high.

Get a new computer and put a decent GPU in it or maybe build your own. How much do you have to spend?
 
Laquer Head said:
Absolutely!!

Stickers on case too, right?
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Yeah the more stickers you have the higher you can overclock and therefore the more speedz. Dodge Viper stripes on the case too and maybe a rear spoiler for good measure.

All powered with a 350W with a ton of molex to PCI express adapters generic brand PSU for the best fireworks. :D
 
spirit said:
Yeah the more stickers you have the higher you can overclock and therefore the more speedz. Dodge Viper stripes on the case too and maybe a rear spoiler for good measure.

All powered with a 350W with a ton of molex to PCI express adapters generic brand PSU for the best fireworks. :D
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beers said:
I've heard that you gain at least 50 MHz for each LED fan and cold cathode.
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Okay, you guys are just being silly now..

We all know that the stickers are functional..they hold on the side panel and saran wrap window cutout
 
If I remember correctly, you have a SSF case with 240W PSU, Q45 mobo with DDR3 RAM. And PCI-E x16 suppot up to 25W GPU (according to HP)
That's why I suggest you get a Q9550, 8GB RAM and 64 bit GDDR5 low profile GT730.

But you didn't say you are doing gaming record last time...
 
Cisco001 said:
If I remember correctly, you have a SSF case with 240W PSU, Q45 mobo with DDR3 RAM. And PCI-E x16 suppot up to 25W GPU (according to HP)
That's why I suggest you get a Q9550, 8GB RAM and 64 bit GDDR5 low profile GT730.

But you didn't say you are doing gaming record last time...
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I think at this stage it's just easier and cheaper to upgrade. I don't think it's worth spending money on an 8 year old quad-core that is beaten by an i3 or 8GB of DDR2 RAM. That setup won't play the game he wants anyway - graphics card isn't powerful enough. I mean come on, the game calls for an i5 750 and a GTX 460 or HD 5850 as a minimum requirement and recommends a GTX 680 or an R9 290X with an i5 2400S. There is no way a 630 or a 730 is going to play it at 1080p and you'd be wasting money upgrading this old system to try and play it.
 
No one advised me to get it it was stashed away in a cupbored the reason I got it out is because my old gaming computer broke it had a $1000 gpu quad core 4gb or corsair ddr3 ram asus p5k motherboard but then something happened and it would turn on but no image on the monitor I've tried changing mobo gpu processor heat sinks even but nothing no beep I think now it might be the power supply but I've given up now coz that's 2 years of working on a comp and in the mean time I was stuck with an hp compaq ultra slim which was just horrible it couldn't even play flash games

My budget is $150 - $200
 
Tommo4523 said:
No one advised me to get it it was stashed away in a cupbored the reason I got it out is because my old gaming computer broke it had a $1000 gpu quad core 4gb or corsair ddr3 ram asus p5k motherboard but then something happened and it would turn on but no image on the monitor I've tried changing mobo gpu processor heat sinks even but nothing no beep I think now it might be the power supply but I've given up now coz that's 2 years of working on a comp and in the mean time I was stuck with an hp compaq ultra slim which was just horrible it couldn't even play flash games

My budget is $150 - $200
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If it is decent spec, take it to your local shop and pay someone to fix it.
 
Tommo4523 said:
No one advised me to get it it was stashed away in a cupbored the reason I got it out is because my old gaming computer broke it had a $1000 gpu quad core 4gb or corsair ddr3 ram asus p5k motherboard but then something happened and it would turn on but no image on the monitor I've tried changing mobo gpu processor heat sinks even but nothing no beep I think now it might be the power supply but I've given up now coz that's 2 years of working on a comp and in the mean time I was stuck with an hp compaq ultra slim which was just horrible it couldn't even play flash games

My budget is $150 - $200
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$1000 GPU in a system with an ASUS P5K? I'm assuming that GPU was $1000 when you bought it in like 2008? (9800 GX2 or 3870 X2 maybe?)

Anyway yeah sounds like there's something up with that system. Sounds like it could be the PSU since you've replaced everything else. Have you tried a different hard drive? Sometimes a bad disk can prevent a system from booting.

Hmmm you have $150 to spend, depending on the spec of that older PC it might be worth just trying a new PSU in there and seeing if that brings it alive again. You'd need a high quality PSU with enough wattage to run whatever GPU is in there (some of those older high-end cards were pretty power hungry). If you've got a P5K it sounds to me like you have a Core 2 Quad and to be honest it's probably better than what you can get for $150. With $150 you'd probably have to looked used anyway, or save and build something better. If you bought that new PSU and the system didn't work at least you'd have a PSU to put towards a new build eh? ;)
 
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