upgrading graphics card

You can assume that, but that's not what I said.

PCI-E 2.0 vs 3.0 single card performance is negligible. Theoretically, 3.0 doubles the bandwidth over 2.0 when comparing the same amount of lanes. However, no card uses enough bandwidth to produce any noticeable performance drops. Even in multi-gpu environments, the performance is not half under 2.0 vs 3.0.
 
1155 Ivy Bridge CPUs (like your 3570) supported PCIE 3.0.

Even if your card ran in a 2.0 slot the difference would be negligible for performance. Whoever told you the 'half performance' thing was stupid. There's half of the slot's memory bandwidth but the card doesn't functionally utilize the extra bandwidth.
 
beers said:
1155 Ivy Bridge CPUs (like your 3570) supported PCIE 3.0.

Even if your card ran in a 2.0 slot the difference would be negligible for performance. Whoever told you the 'half performance' thing was stupid. There's half of the slot's memory bandwidth but the card doesn't functionally utilize the extra bandwidth.
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I read it online somewhere. Just trying to learn. You guys have been invaluable. The last issue I have is my power supply. I seen that mine was on the bad list but it it's been almost 4 years and nothing dum has happened so I don't see a reason to replace it.
 
Intel_man said:
bad list for what? If you don't play games that need extra power from the new video cards, then there's no point in upgrading.
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It's a crappy brand everybody says. And everybody here said I should but I feel like it's so pointless. It's not like I oc or anything .
 
Are you trying to play some games that are just either not working with your current computer or is very slow at playing said games?
 
Intel_man said:
Are you trying to play some games that are just either not working with your current computer or is very slow at playing said games?
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Yah I'm going to get a new gc since xcom 2 chugs at 7-15fps. People said in this thread that my PSU sucks and I should upgrade that too.
 
Intel_man said:
It does and you should.

What sort of fps are you trying to achieve in xcom 2?
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Just something where I can run it on higher setting and get a smoother performance. Going to probably get that amd rx 270 4gb (about 130$)was it. But I doubt my computer would blow up or something because of it
 
niunit said:
However if it runs my computer why change it. I know I'm being difficult but it's hard for me I guess
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Cheap no-name brand powersupplies often use crap transistors and the circuit design maybe dangerous and unstable. Powersupplies are something you do not want to cheap out on. Because when one of those fails (which yours is just a matter of time... it's a ticking time bomb), it often either fries your motherboard or videocard with it and possibly other parts of your computer too.
 
niunit said:
However if it runs my computer why change it. I know I'm being difficult but it's hard for me I guess
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Depends on your goals and the card you're looking at now. If you choose a higher TDP card then you'll start running into problems. 24A on 12v means you only have ~288w on the 12v rail, which runs just about everything. Most decent PSUs will be rated for the full unit wattage on the 12v rail alone.
 
hey guys I have finally learned a lot more and have decided on
ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1060 Mini, ZT-P10610A-10L, 3GB GDDR5 Super Compact http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500405&ignorebbr=1

or
ASUS GeForce GTX 950 DirectX 12 GTX950-2G 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126090&ignorebbr=1

The guy on newegg was very helpful and keeps pushing me towards the more expensive one, but i wanted your guys opinions on it since I am not playing intensive video games (ie grim dawn, xcom 2), the 1060 is 200 and the gtx 950 is 104 after rebate.
 
If you're going to get the GTX 1060, you get the 6gb one. Not the 3gb one.

You're probably better off going to a RX470 anyways.
 
Intel_man said:
If you're going to get the GTX 1060, you get the 6gb one. Not the 3gb one.

You're probably better off going to a RX470 anyways.
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Why the rx470. I was leaning more towards nivida due to being better for gaming. I mostly want the best bang for my buck. I don't need to play quantum break on ultra settings
 
niunit said:
I mostly want the best bang for my buck
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That depends on who you talk to.

There's quite a few cards that can be considered best bang for your buck.

The GTX 1070 is one of them. Almost half the original MSRP price of the 980 ti, but with equal performance. Who can say no to that?

The GTX 1060 (6gb version) is one. At $249, it's not bad at all. Don't buy the 3gb version because the chip itself comes with less CUDA cores. Which is a bad business practice from nvidia to do that. Definitely do not support that.

The RX 480 was a very good contender... not sure how I feel about that card now. The 8gb card price dives into the 1060 6gb one and well unless you crossfire them... what's the point? @Darren, what's your take on it?

However with the new RX 470 (~$199). It's a perfect card for those who don't want to fork out the extra $50 (which is an additional 25% of their video card budget!), the RX 470 is a good alternative.
 
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