UPS question

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Noir

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Hi guys, need an info here.
At last i've got my 8800gt to replace my 8600gt, now theres a slight concern regarding my ups.
Its my old prolink 600va with build in avr, i don't know how much power does my pc consume but when i tried to stick with the ups rather then direct from power socket, the pc works alright. Does this means my ups had enough power to run the pc? U can see the spec on my sig.
And another thing, the electricity in my house doesn't have any grounding, how to make one, because i always get electric shock (static i assume) everytime i touch my pc.
 
The 8800s require at least a 450w supply while the 8600s with work with a 400w model. For the electrical situation that's not good! There are some 3 to 2 prong adapters where you simply fasten a ground wire to the fastener holding the face plate for the ac outlet where you then can plug in a surge protection strip and eliminate the esd factor!

You don't want to get zapped :eek: from an improperly grounded electrical source!
 
PC eye said:
The 8800s require at least a 450w supply while the 8600s with work with a 400w model. For the electrical situation that's not good! There are some 3 to 2 prong adapters where you simply fasten a ground wire to the fastener holding the face plate for the ac outlet where you then can plug in a surge protection strip and eliminate the esd factor!

You don't want to get zapped :eek: from an improperly grounded electrical source!
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Well my power supply can do the job right? Its regarding my ups, a 600va (if im not wrong its only support 360-380 watt right?) type but strangely i can turn on my pc.

About my grounding problem, i dont really understand, can u explain a little more, i really need the answer.
 
The UPS simply isn't enough for the higher end card by itself. As for the ac outlet where you plug everything into you will notice a screw holding a face plate on covering the rest of the outlet except where you push the plug in for the supply and UPS.

The small fastener there is ground itself where you simply take a wire seen coming out of the 3 prong to 2 prong reducer. The wire is secured to the metal box the same way any metal or plastic cover goes onto the ac outlet.

The problem for the most part however is the way the electrical was originally setup lacking the proper grounding. The adapter simply provides a way to see a power strip with surge protection plugged in while the shocks are from inadequate grounding to begin with there. an additional ground would be needed to solve that with the help of an experienced electrician not a novice!

Someone that does know how to wire electrical outlets properly would be needed there to see that done. That would be someone who does that for a living and can explain why good grounding is advised.
 
Pc eye, since i still can use the ups (and i dont know why it can still powered my system, i still use it now because its build in avr/stabilizer) correct me if im wrong.
The ups still can be use only to supply power to the system but the back up function will not work properly because the system overload.
 
Wow, were you ever led down the garden path there. The UPS will work regardless because it still has ~120V, 15A or so output to the PSU, same as the wall. The problem won't be while there's power going to it. If it's a decent one it will act as a line conditioner as well.. The problem will be when the power goes out. A 600VA UPS can probably only keep the machine running 10 minutes max with that kind of draw. The only thing you need to worry about is runtimes/load on the UPS on battery. The rest of what you were told is completely immaterial.

EDIT: I have 4 1300VA UPS' here. Just for fun I hooked two computers up, one of them my main monster computer, to one UPS. While it ran just Jim Dandy while the power cord was in, when I blew the circuit breaker (having 6 computers, two of them gigawatt servers with SCSI RAID arrays in them, a massive stereo system, two laser printers, and a blowdryer on the same circuit was a little more than the poor thing could handle), the UPS lasted about 5 minutes before the battery died.
 
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Thats explain even more, because everyone told me that a 600va ups only hold 300-380 watt and my pc consume more than that.
That way im affraid that my pc wont turn on or even the performance will be limited due lack of power.
If it just like u said, well i only need the ups for its avr now and because i dont have any good grounding so i suppose an avr would be great, even if it only last 5 min just to shut down my pc from power failure thats enough to make my pc safe.
Right now i cant afford to buy a 1200va ups.
 
Noir said:
Thats explain even more, because everyone told me that a 600va ups only hold 300-380 watt and my pc consume more than that.
That way im affraid that my pc wont turn on or even the performance will be limited due lack of power.
If it just like u said, well i only need the ups for its avr now and because i dont have any good grounding so i suppose an avr would be great, even if it only last 5 min just to shut down my pc from power failure thats enough to make my pc safe.
Right now i cant afford to buy a 1200va ups.
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You don't have to worry about it, the UPS is not limited to 300-380W, it will provide up to 1725W (if you have a 15A circuit @ 115V), unless otherwise noted on the UPS. The problem is when the power goes out, the UPS most likely will not work if you are playing a game at the time, and the computer will just shut off, so it's basically acting like a beefed up surge protector. However if you are just browsing the web for instance, chances are it will last a few minutes. Of course that depends on what else is plugged into the UPS's battery outlets, such as monitors and accessories.
 
fortyways said:
http://www.computerforum.com/90110-power-recommendations-video-card.html
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7. Do you have the power?

System power requirements have become a major concern now that video cards have grown into strong, power-sucking behemoths. Video card manufacturers print the power-supply recommendations on the side of the box. The printed number is often slightly higher than actually necessary since it accounts for poor power-supply quality and overloaded systems. Mid- to high-end single cards usually require a 400W or 450W power supply. Requirements for dual-card setups such as a CrossFire Radeon X1900 XTX configuration start at 550W. http://www.gamespot.com/features/6153327/index.html?type=tech&page=2
 
Well im relieved to hear that.
Well my ups only at 10A @ 220v does that mean 2200watt?
Greatfully i've already got my 500 watt to replace my old single rail unknown spec 450 watt psu :-D
 
PC eye said:
7. Do you have the power?

System power requirements have become a major concern now that video cards have grown into strong, power-sucking behemoths. Video card manufacturers print the power-supply recommendations on the side of the box. The printed number is often slightly higher than actually necessary since it accounts for poor power-supply quality and overloaded systems. Mid- to high-end single cards usually require a 400W or 450W power supply. Requirements for dual-card setups such as a CrossFire Radeon X1900 XTX configuration start at 550W. http://www.gamespot.com/features/6153327/index.html?type=tech&page=2
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PC Eye, do you even read the posts? He's talking about having a UPS that has a 300-380W battery, that does NOT mean he can only connect devices that use up to 380W.

Noir said:
Well im relieved to hear that.
Well my ups only at 10A @ 220v does that mean 2200watt?
Greatfully i've already got my 500 watt to replace my old single rail unknown spec 450 watt psu :-D
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I forgot you lived outside the USA, so yes you would have a maximum of 2200 watts on that circuit.
 
PC eye said:
7. Do you have the power?

System power requirements have become a major concern now that video cards have grown into strong, power-sucking behemoths. Video card manufacturers print the power-supply recommendations on the side of the box. The printed number is often slightly higher than actually necessary since it accounts for poor power-supply quality and overloaded systems. Mid- to high-end single cards usually require a 400W or 450W power supply. Requirements for dual-card setups such as a CrossFire Radeon X1900 XTX configuration start at 550W. http://www.gamespot.com/features/6153327/index.html?type=tech&page=2
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Irrelevant. The recommended wattage for the 8800GT is 400, not 450.
 
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