Wanted: a no-nonsense, rocket of a computer...

tothemax6

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Hi All,
Has been quite a while since I last came to this forum.

The story: I am back because I finally got shot of the last computer, which was a online-ordered ready-made Acer i7, and which was completely useless. I have realized that it is a very significant cost (in terms of time and effort), if one does not get the correct computer and has to return it. It took more than 3 tech assistance call-outs, replacement of every part, repeated pestering of Acer (eventually resulting in a return), repeated calls to the supplier to process the return, in total taking up about 6 months.
Unfortunately, the price of such a machine is for me, to much for me to simply chuck in the bin and try again.

The computer I would like is razor-sharp. It gets impatient with me because I am not going fast enough. When I double-click on something, it loads up before I even have time to finish the second-click. Never does a window become unresponsive because the computer is still processing. The graphics are crystal clear and fluid.
My primary use of the computer is using the internet and watching movies. That may not seem like much, but the computer must have absolutely no lagging or hesitation whatsoever, and no video problems at all. Often I will have open around 20 tabs, some on forums, some on videos, some applets running etc. I will also have GOM player open, probably iTunes running as well, and music composition software which uses a realistic sound engine running.

Is this do-able? Does anyone here have such a computer? Did you buy it ready-made, or did you assemble it yourself? If you assembled it yourself, what components did you use?

Cheers!
 
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For that use i would suggest a 2500K (oc if you want to), a large SSD to store your programs, and HD6970 or GTX580 graphics.
The SSD and RAM are what affects the speed of opening programs.
 
Ok so you won't be playing games right??or be doing some video editting or converting etc.
Anyways the type of computer you defined does not necessarily be made of aced out hardware.Even if you spend 3grand on a computer and not maintain it properly from the both the software and hardware point of view then that would also lead to the experience of crysis on a P4 even with all your fancy hardware.Your requirements can be fulfilled by even a low end computer properly maintained since my netbook which is an atom does everything you described without any lag(non hd).Even though the it does not have an SSD but getting one would improve your load times by a lot.

We would like to know your budget and then we can build a system which would do good for you but you would have to maintain it to keep it doing so.
 
Hi All,
Has been quite a while since I last came to this forum.

The story: I am back because I finally got shot of the last computer, which was a online-ordered ready-made Acer i7, and which was completely useless. I have realized that it is a very significant cost (in terms of time and effort), if one does not get the correct computer and has to return it. It took more than 3 tech assistance call-outs, replacement of every part, repeated pestering of Acer (eventually resulting in a return), repeated calls to the supplier to process the return, in total taking up about 6 months.
Unfortunately, the price of such a machine is for me, to much for me to simply chuck in the bin and try again.

The computer I would like is razor-sharp. It gets impatient with me because I am not going fast enough. When I double-click on something, it loads up before I even have time to finish the second-click. Never does a window become unresponsive because the computer is still processing. The graphics are crystal clear and fluid.
My primary use of the computer is using the internet and watching movies. That may not seem like much, but the computer must have absolutely no lagging or hesitation whatsoever, and no video problems at all. Often I will have open around 20 tabs, some on forums, some on videos, some applets running etc. I will also have GOM player open, probably iTunes running as well, and music composition software which uses a realistic sound engine running.

Is this do-able? Does anyone here have such a computer? Did you buy it ready-made, or did you assemble it yourself? If you assembled it yourself, what components did you use?

Cheers!

Yes, that is do able :) First off, what is your budget? Also where is your prefered place of purchase, and do you already have anything? (i.e monitor, os, keyboard/mouse)

-Jeremy
 
dont need a raid to see performance increase on a SSD, but if you want to by all means.

I understand that, but putting a couple SSDs in raid will net a huge performance gain. The hard drive is what everything is loaded on. Everytime you open a program or boot it reads off the hard drive. Having a couple SSDs in raid will dramatically reduce load times by increasing how fast the the processor can pull data off the hard drive and onto the ram. Once it's off the hard drive, everything else takes over. Having a large amount of ram allows more data to be ready to go so it doesn't have to be fetched off the hard drive. Hard drives are a huge bottleneck in any computer. A typical hard drive can only read about 100mb/s meaning only 100mb/s can be transfered onto the ram. Once it's on the ram though your ram can transfer about 16gb/s. So by increasing the amount of data your hard drive can transfer will drastically reduce loading times on anything you do.

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OK thanks for the help guys,
My budget target is less than AUD2000.
From the sounds of it an SSD sounds like the way to go, so I would definitely have one of those. I would consider raiding more than one SSD, depending on the price.
Regarding what I have, I have all the peripherals, and I am happy with those peripherals - its only the computer that I need.
I'd imagine I would need to buy Win7 64bit to get the performance from such a machine
As for maintenance of the machine, I always keep my computer well maintained. It has a defrag-screensaver, it gets re-imaged more than once a year, and it is set up for lean, fast performance (e.g. constant size page file, all windows fancy graphical nonsense is turned off).
Cheers
 
Also just to let you know I'm no expert, so you should check up with other members before making your decision. This is what i'd do.

Intel i5 2500k - $225

Coolermaster CM690 ll Case - $100

eVGA 131-GT-E767-TR Motherboard - $210

OCZ Vertex ll 60gb SSD - $110

Western Digital Caviar Black 1tb - $90

Saphire 6870 1gb - $199

Corsair Vengeance 6gb ddr3 1600mhz RAM - $78

This won't work.

CPU and motherboard aren't compatible. The CPU is socket 1155, the mobo is socket 1366.

CPU: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=187_346_1184&products_id=16531

Motherboard: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_711_1183&products_id=16833

Memory: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_538_913&products_id=16509

Graphics: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1149&products_id=16216

SSD: 4 x http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=210_902_1006&products_id=14954

Power Supply: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_972&products_id=15957

DVD Drive: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=658_667&products_id=17078

OS: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=375_974&products_id=17003

I would also recommend you get a storage drive too, both for space and to save on read/write processes on the SSD's. If you take up my advice on this:

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=210_344&products_id=13197

would be my recommendation for the price. Put your videos on there. They may take a couple seconds to load, but once loaded will play flawlessly. Everything else will be (should be) instant.

The total without the hard drive: $1631
The total with hard drive: $1696

That leaves ~$300 for a case, however to spend that much is unnecessary, unless you want a monolithic case, then I can not recommend:

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25_961&products_id=14219

enough. I have one and am in love with it. If you don't want a huge case (it is huge, no two ways about it) and just want a "standard" sized case:

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25_31&products_id=13772

would be a good choice, however it depends on what you want from looks, seeing as how it will probably be the only thing you will see
 
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