Watercooling (H60) or aircooling (mugen2)

Virssagòn

Virssagòn

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So,
I`m still not out of which cooler I gonna take.
the H60 is more expensive but maybe better...
the mugen is one of the best aircoolers and costs 30$ less.

Some questions:
what cooler cools best?
which one is easy to mount?
which one is best price/performance
and do I have to remove the motherboard to install the H60?

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From what I have seen on other forums, the h60 might be a tiny bit better, but YMMV, and if you don't have a back plate cutout at the back of the motherboard, you will have to remove the motherboard to install the h60, the socket 2011 was easy...the back plate had threaded holes on the top that the little hardware screwed into. AMD on the other hand can be installed without removing the motherboard, it just attaches to the existing back plate using a pair of loops and thumb screws.
 
Hmm, so I'll have to remove it...
It's my first time installing a cooler.
Is it difficult and can I do much wrong? Anyone got experience with the h60?
I got holes for watercooling on the back of my case.
 
Its incredibly simple. Basically all you need is a space for the 120mm fan at the back of the case, you attach the fan the way you want it to face, either pulling from the back of the case in, or from inside the case facing out, the screws are longer, and id suggest pulling from in the case and pushing out, and add a second fan later that matches better to the one included, or get a pair that match completely. I do not know if the pump has fan headers for two fans, or just one, or neither.

Anyway. You pull the motherboard out, add the backplate with the included screw/standoffs, and then press the pump with the included hardware (it should be attached for intel by default) and thread thumbscrews on by hand, snugging down with a phillips screwdriver. According to the video posted by corsair, for a lga 1155 socket, the installation takes about 8 min, and i would agree to that, its fairly simple and straight forward, there is no way to screw up the intel or amd installation really, as long as you take your time.

Reason I know the installation, is the pump resembles the one for the h100 pretty much.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO9APx2yKrg <- corsair's video
 
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FuryRosewood said:
Its incredibly simple. Basically all you need is a space for the 120mm fan at the back of the case, you attach the fan the way you want it to face, either pulling from the back of the case in, or from inside the case facing out, the screws are longer, and id suggest pulling from in the case and pushing out, and add a second fan later that matches better to the one included, or get a pair that match completely. I do not know if the pump has fan headers for two fans, or just one, or neither.

Anyway. You pull the motherboard out, add the backplate with the included screw/standoffs, and then press the pump with the included hardware (it should be attached for intel by default) and thread thumbscrews on by hand, snugging down with a phillips screwdriver. According to the video posted by corsair, for a lga 1155 socket, the installation takes about 8 min, and i would agree to that, its fairly simple and straight forward, there is no way to screw up the intel or amd installation really, as long as you take your time.

Reason I know the installation, is the pump resembles the one for the h100 pretty much.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO9APx2yKrg <- corsair's video
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cools the 100 much better then the 60 one?
 
my 3820 at stock rates never seems to stay at 40 for long with my normal usage, the phenom ii by comparison was at 40 or higher at all times...not sure if its cpu or cooler or both...but it runs damn cool. the h50 was what i had before, i didnt notice much difference between h50 and h100 but different cpu seems to run cooler
 
FuryRosewood said:
my 3820 at stock rates never seems to stay at 40 for long with my normal usage, the phenom ii by comparison was at 40 or higher at all times...not sure if its cpu or cooler or both...but it runs damn cool. the h50 was what i had before, i didnt notice much difference between h50 and h100 but different cpu seems to run cooler
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k, I was thinking about the h80. It seems to be cooling very good. But I don't have the money so I'll go with the h60 and maybe I can place another fan to the radiator to cool it like an h80?
 
It does not work that way. The radiator on the H70 and H80 are thicker than the H50/H60. That means it is able to dissipate more heat. You could push double the air (doubtful because of fan tech) through a H50/H60 and still not match a H70/H80.
 
wolfeking said:
It does not work that way. The radiator on the H70 and H80 are thicker than the H50/H60. That means it is able to dissipate more heat. You could push double the air (doubtful because of fan tech) through a H50/H60 and still not match a H70/H80.
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sad :(....
I want money xD
But it's right that the h60 will beat the mugen2 and maybe the noctua nh-d14?
 
I can't really say. I know water runs better than air in full loops, but closed loops not sure.

A good air cooler may be able to match a water cooler for less.
 
and so is the H series. You get what you pay for. If you want a cheap way out, then you need to ditch the overclock. no 2 ways about it. It is either good cooling or cheap, you can not have both.
 
nope. it is 25cm high, and your case only supports 16.5cm. But to put it in perspective, you would barely be able to fir a 212 and it is not exactly a big cooler.
 
wolfeking said:
nope. it is 25cm high, and your case only supports 16.5cm. But to put it in perspective, you would barely be able to fir a 212 and it is not exactly a big cooler.
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hmm, thats weird xD
My case looks so big :P

I gonna go with the h80 then, I saw somewhere that they are VERY close.
 
if you replace the fans, look for stuff with high static pressure, thats better suited for radiators, than airflow, corsair makes some fans just for that, though their 30 bucks a pair, they will work well, or you can get the standard fans they include with the h100 for 20 as a pair, anything else really doesnt improve much from what ive heard.
 
FuryRosewood said:
if you replace the fans, look for stuff with high static pressure, thats better suited for radiators, than airflow, corsair makes some fans just for that, though their 30 bucks a pair, they will work well, or you can get the standard fans they include with the h100 for 20 as a pair, anything else really doesnt improve much from what ive heard.
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gonna see what the stock fans give me. Because my cpu runs very cool on the stock fan (lol). It is about 55° load @ 4.1ghz. But I want higher overclocks so I gonna buy the h60-h80
 
I have the H60 and I see 18-22c idle temps (it is winter here, room is about 14c) and I rarely see anything break 42c load. Stock clocks.
 
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