What's so special about the amd x2 black edition?

[king-pin]

i bought the amd x2 5000+ black edition. what makes the black edition so special?

 

[diduknowthat]

It has unlocked multipliers so it's better for OCing.

 

[AcetheGamer]

i bought the amd x2 5000+ black edition. what makes the black edition so special?

it is better to do your research before buying components...you might regret it in the end

 

[lovely?]

the AMD 5000 black edition is respectfully the best processor for the amount of money it costs, and at a good clock speed and unlocked multipliers plus 65nm tech, all in all a very nice processor for so little money.

 

[Jet]

I don't know if I quite agree with that statement. I'd say the E2xxx series is a bit higher value (after overclocking).

 

[The_Beast]

it has a unlocked multi. which means bigger OC's

It's a great upgrade but I rather have a C2D

 

[xxxalpinexxx80]

ya good for that type of budget

 

[ride3k]

I don't know if I quite agree with that statement. I'd say the E2xxx series is a bit higher value (after overclocking).

the unlocked multiplier of the black edition makes overclocking a breeze and much safer (no worries about buying overclocking friendly RAM if you want big big big OC's)

 

[king-pin]

thanks guys. also one more question: when overclocking hjow do I figure out what voltage to increase it by??

 

[spanky]

thanks guys. also one more question: when overclocking hjow do I figure out what voltage to increase it by??

you don't have to that is what every is trying to tell you. it has a unlocked multiplier. just up the multiplier.

 

[Jet]

the unlocked multiplier of the black edition makes overclocking a breeze and much safer (no worries about buying overclocking friendly RAM if you want big big big OC's)

Okay. There are a lot of statements here.

1. the unlocked multiplier of the black edition makes overclocking a breeze.

Yes, that's true. But, typing (or selecting) an FSB is just as easy.

and much safer

How would multiplier overclocking be much safer? Both FSB and multiplier overclocking do the same thing: increase the CPU speed. Neither are a safety hazard. The only safety hazard is raising the Vcore, which you will have to do with both.

Are you saying it is safer because you aren't overclocking the memory and FSB as well? Let's tackle the FSB first. Just think. With a 9x multi (on the E2160), you raise the FSB to 296, and you'll have 2.66Ghz, which is the same clock as an E6700. An FSB of 295 is well under the FSB of 333 that most, if not all, Intel motherboards support. So, therefore, the FSB isn't going to provide a "safety" hazard.

Now for memory. Most motherboards for Intel processors have a lowest memory divider of 1:1. That means, for the above situation, the lowest memory speed would be DDR2-590. Even the slowest DDR2-533 can reach that, and for the more common DDR2-667 or DDR2-800, you'll have the option of under clocking your ram! Not a safety hazard.

(no worries about buying overclocking friendly RAM if you want big big big OC's)

Okay. I'll present an extreme situation. Let's say, you are overclocking the E2160 (with the aforementioned 9X multiplier) to a whopping 3500Mhz (which the average consumer won't get close, at least not without phase change, or water cooling at the least). That would require an FSB of 389. Due to the 1:1 multiplier limit on most motherboards, that would be a lowest Ram speed of DDR2-778. Most DDR2-667 can reach that, and DDR2-800 is just as cheap as DDR2-667. And that's a big, big overclock.

you don't have to that is what every is trying to tell you. it has a unlocked multiplier. just up the multiplier.

Eventually he'll have to raise the voltage reguardless...

thanks guys. also one more question: when overclocking hjow do I figure out what voltage to increase it by??

Just raise the multiplier one step at a time, and then increase the voltage if it doesn't boot. Keep increasing the voltage for the multipler until you can boot into windows, and run a stress testing program like OCCT or Orthos. Just remember to keep temperatures under 65C, and to not increase the voltage too much.

 

[Geoff]

How would multiplier overclocking be much safer? Both FSB and multiplier overclocking do the same thing: increase the CPU speed. Neither are a safety hazard. The only safety hazard is raising the Vcore, which you will have to do with both.

Are you saying it is safer because you aren't overclocking the memory and FSB as well? Let's tackle the FSB first. Just think. With a 9x multi (on the E2160), you raise the FSB to 296, and you'll have 2.66Ghz, which is the same clock as an E6700. An FSB of 295 is well under the FSB of 333 that most, if not all, Intel motherboards support. So, therefore, the FSB isn't going to provide a "safety" hazard.

Um, no.

When you raise/lower the multiplier, the FSB and bus speed stay the same. The bus speed is determined by the FSB x 4, the clock speed is determined by the FSB x Multiplier.

Overclocking by raising the multiplier is "safer" because you aren't stressing the FSB or RAM, as well as other components which are tied into the FSB.




And if you want proof: