Which 500gb HDD - WD, Samsung, Seagate - Quick Advice!

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Which one should I buy? I need advice ASAP before I install everything!!

Western Digital Caviar SE16
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10
SAMSUNG SpinPoint T

I actually already bought the Samsung (will arrive tomorrow), but I can still return it. It will be my primary (OS) drive, and my only HDD. I will use it for standard applications, browsing internet, gaming, and video editing mainly.

Seemed like the Samsung was the best, then WD, then Seagate. All about same speed, SATAII and same size.

Thanks a lot!
 
I'm currently running two WD 500gb satas moved from one build to the next here. Most will choose either Seagate or WD right away since those are the leading brands of drives.

WD is all that's been run here for over a decade since replacing an old IBM 386 "boat anchor"! :P The old prebuild there saw an IBM brand 200mb drive at the time. I replaced the 500mb WD model in the next AST system then with a 1.4gb WD still running 95 after all these years on an old Packard Bell.
 
The Caviar is a piece of crap. Anyone who advises the Caviar over the Samsung Spinpoint T has absolutely NO idea what they're talking about. The Spinpoint T destroys the Caviar. It's an excellent drive, you'll be very happy with it.
 
Some people just don't like WD or AMD cpus for some reason as you can tell. The Seagate is the one that sees a slight lower 8.5ms average seek time over the WD and Samsung models seeing 8.9ms! All three are 7,200rpm models with 16mb caches.
 
Reason # 1,584 why you do not take computer advice from PCeye:

Seek time has very little to do with the overall performance of a drive, and should not be the deciding factor in your purchase. Cache has sweet bugger all to do with performance, as in 98% of drive operations only about 1MB is actually used, the remainder is typically a marketting gimmick.

a) The Spinpoint T is a whisper quiet drive, quieter than either the Caviar or the Seagate

b) The Spinpoint T has less vibration than either of the other two

c) The Spinpoint T tops the Caviar and Barracuda in Sequential Transfer Rates

d) The Spinpoint T crucifies the Caviar in I/O operations per second in office applications, albeit while trailing in some games

e) The Spinpoint T consumes far less power on startup than either the Caviar or the Seagate

f) The Spinpoint T is not well known for catastrophic failures, such as MFT corruption and the now infamous *click* *click* *click*, as the Caviar is widely well known for

g) The Spinpoint T runs cooler than the WD, and we all know (well, at least the people that know what they're talking about) that heat is a big player in drive failure.

The people that don't like WD Caviars have a reason for that. They, unlike certain other contributing members, actually know what they are talking about as they, unlike certain other contributing members, have actual experience, sometimes lengthy (in this case 15 years, two of them being a registered, authorized WD dealer and an experience encompassing literally thousands of harddrives, as opposed to a sample size of Google/MSN/Yahoo and that batch sitting in the corner on top of the Antec 900). And they, unlike certain other contributing members, happen to see almost 90% of failed harddrives they service on a weekly basis being WD, at an average time outlay of 1 1/2 hours, with the client incurring a repair bill of about $130 for said service.

So, in the end, does the seek time actually matter? I didn't think so.
 
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And why do "they", being "WD dealers no doubt, replace drives weekly? Sounds like a method to charge for a new drive when often not needed! just to "sell" a new drive to someone?!

I find that highly questionable having run a good number as well as seeing others running the same brand over the last several years without problems. But unfortunately we have some here that would rather spend time running smear campaigns. :rolleyes:
 
i'm running the spinpoint you bought for a couple of months now.
runs quieter than any other drive i've ever heard and never had any problems.
i'm using it pretty intensively, it's on 24/7 and i'm used to running either 1 or 2 virtual machines.

i haven't seen any downside to them yet as they are cheap, fast and reliable. Do yourself a favor and keep the samsung.
 
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a) The Spinpoint T is a whisper quiet drive, quieter than either the Caviar or the Seagate

b) The Spinpoint T has less vibration than either of the other two

c) The Spinpoint T tops the Caviar and Barracuda in Sequential Transfer Rates

d) The Spinpoint T crucifies the Caviar in I/O operations per second in office applications, albeit while trailing in some games

e) The Spinpoint T consumes far less power on startup than either the Caviar or the Seagate

f) The Spinpoint T is not well known for catastrophic failures, such as MFT corruption and the now infamous *click* *click* *click*, as the Caviar is widely well known for

g) The Spinpoint T runs cooler than the WD, and we all know (well, at least the people that know what they're talking about) that heat is a big player in drive failure.

You would probably recommend the ExcelStor drives as well. :rolleyes:
 
this is cinda of topic but i do not know what mine id all i know is it is a WD 500G are there diffrent types of WD 500G or are they all Caviars
 
I don't replace the drive. I repair them. The client is then instructed to back up immediately. I repair them because 99 % of the time they don't have their data backed up and understandably can't afford to lose it.
 
Yeah, well, all I have ever used are Caviar SE16's and never had a problem out of any WD drive. I have had problems out of Maxtor but that's beside the point. Samsung has been known to have the diagnostic software that constantly displays that bad sectors or other problems are occurring during a test.
 
Yeah, and how many Caviar SEs have you used in your life? 4? 10? 20 maybe? Perhaps you can tell me how that compares to a sample size of over 1000? I used to bring them in by the box full when I was an authorized dealer.

Dell uses WD almost exclusively, and I service several of them a week, the last one two days ago. I have the invoice sitting here on my desk... But... You've never had a problem.. I guess that I'll tell the next batch of clients that it's all in their head because somebody on a message board gets the occasional WD for Christmas or because PCeye did a Google search and determined that the seek time is 3/10th of a millisecond faster than the Samsung and is thus a better drive.

God.. Sometimes one can't help but want to knock some sense into people. Maybe not even so much the people like PCeye who profess they know something about things they have no clue or very, very little real life experience (but damnit all they worked in tool and dye for 50 years), or the people that actually assess these clowns any sort of credibility.

I do have a couple of fried WDs here though.. That would, in fact, be the ones that were the better buy because of that millisecond that nobody will notice or the half a dozen Christmas presents someone is using.

The reality of WD Caviar SEs is this. It is fine for light duty home use (and I mean very light duty). For any other environment, they are crapola. That's why I can only think of how retarded the person is who brags about Caviar SEs in RAID 0 in their signature. I know, 100% for sure, what's going to happen.. Then they'll be the ones bursting zits and blood vessels, posting in the forum about how to rescue their porn collection because the drives corrupted themselves.
 
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Which one should I buy? I need advice ASAP before I install everything!!

Western Digital Caviar SE16
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10
SAMSUNG SpinPoint T

I actually already bought the Samsung (will arrive tomorrow), but I can still return it. It will be my primary (OS) drive, and my only HDD. I will use it for standard applications, browsing internet, gaming, and video editing mainly.

Seemed like the Samsung was the best, then WD, then Seagate. All about same speed, SATAII and same size.

Thanks a lot!

Keep the samsung it will be a fine drive, but between the other 2 the Seagate is the better drive. On W/D pick a RE or Raptor model instead of the SE model. The SE is low end general purpose drive
 
Wow. Thanks for the help. Clearly, I've started a battle, but that's beside the point...

My drive arrived just now. As it seems that there are no severe disadvantages to the Samsung and as I've read some good reviews for it and as SirKenin and Stranglehold said to stay with the Samsung, unless there is something extremely wrong with it, I'm going to format it and install XP right now. As for now, I'm trying to decide between XP Pro and XP home, but that's OT.

I appreciate all your help! Continue the argument please! Some of us are learning...;)
 
Yeah, and how many Caviar SEs have you used in your life? 4? 10? 20 maybe? Perhaps you can tell me how that compares to a sample size of over 1000? I used to bring them in by the box full when I was an authorized dealer.

Dell uses WD almost exclusively, and I service several of them a week, the last one two days ago. I have the invoice sitting here on my desk... But... You've never had a problem..
I guess that I'll tell the next batch of clients that it's all in their head because somebody on a message board gets the occasional WD for Christmas or because PC eye did a Google search and determined that the seek time is 3/10th of a millisecond faster than the Samsung and is thus a better drive.

God.. Sometimes one can't help but want to knock some sense into people. Maybe not even so much the people like PCeye who profess they know something about things they have no clue or very, very little real life experience (but damnit all they worked in tool and dye for 50 years), or the people that actually assess these clowns any sort of credibility.

I do have a couple of fried WDs here though.. That would, in fact, be the ones that were the better buy because of that millisecond that nobody will notice or the half a dozen Christmas presents someone is using.

The reality of WD Caviar SEs is this. It is fine for light duty home use (and I mean very light duty). For any other environment, they are crapola. That's why I can only think of how retarded the person is who brags about Caviar SEs in RAID 0 in their signature. I know, 100% for sure, what's going to happen.. Then they'll be the ones bursting zits and blood vessels, posting in the forum about how to rescue their porn collection because the drives corrupted themselves.

In my lifetime I have probably had 10-12 different hard drives... Right now I am running an SE16 and an Ext. My Book on my desktop, an SE in my laptop, an SE in my other desktop, and 2 RAID 0 SE's in my server. :) I have a crap load of dead Maxtors, but they're IDE so I could just build a house with those bricks. (To the subject) I could careless how many you've brought home, what you think about them, or your disagreement with my opinion. I gave my opinion, next time do you want me to send you a PM about it, then quote it in a post under my name?

I don't care what Dell uses are you trying to make some connection there, "crap computers use crap HDD's"? They are probably the most common to breakdown because HP might use them and Dell uses them, and Dell & HP are the two larger brands of prebuilt.. Thought about that?

PC eye obviously used his resources better than you did to find that information, what is it, are you jealous?

What did the #OP# say he was gonna use it for? I don't see a server OS going on it, do you? I see Windows XP.... You've just contradicted yourself. I've never had a problem out of WD...

If you were half the IT person you wouldn't reside on this forum, if you know as much as you think you do, you wouldn't bitch and gripe about product flaws all the time. But, oh wait, you're some form of IT, right?

I suggest you try to become less full of yourself, they have doctors for this sort of thing. Sounds less like WD's problems and more like your personal problems...;)

And on a side note, what is your problem with the average, computer building, gaming teenager? Hell, you tried to rip [-0MEGA-] a new one because of his choice of the 2900XT, when you were trying to pick up a 3870, which is just barely over the 2900XT. You didn't even know what the 8800GTX was when you bought it and then were mad when you found out there was an 8800GT that is just as good for half the price.

In that 8800GTX vs. 8800GT thread you made 1-10FPS look like a lot but now you're putting down 3ms? WHOA!
 
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Want my 2 cents? I have a samsung and a WD, both are 250 gb in Raid 1. When I first got the WD, its an SE model, it gave me problems with the famous clicking noise now and then. Well, it has been about a year since I last heard it. The samsung is very quiet and can't even tell its running. The only thing I don't like about the Samsung drives is that they only have a 1 year warranty. Seagate and WD, depending on the model of drive, has a 5 year warranty. I haven't tried the latest Seagate drives so can't tell you how they are as far as noise or anything. I think I'm gonna try Seagate next time. I've had quite a few problems with WD through the years.
 
Keep the samsung it will be a fine drive, but between the other 2 the Seagate is the better drive. On W/D pick a RE or Raptor model instead of the SE model. The SE is low end general purpose drive

On an old Packard 95 system the 1.2gb Seagate there quit awhile after being bought new for a friend's kid at the time. Fortunately I had just bought a WD 13gb model(Cavier SE) and could spare the old 1.4gb WD model hanging around and tossed that in back in 1999. You know that old Packard Bell is still up and running with 95 to this day. (SE = Special Edition)

Another friend collects old drives that still work to simply have onhand. Some of those are 50mb to 200mb WD models still good after all those years!

Want my 2 cents? I have a samsung and a WD, both are 250 gb in Raid 1. When I first got the WD, its an SE model, it gave me problems with the famous clicking noise now and then. Well, it has been about a year since I last heard it. The samsung is very quiet and can't even tell its running. The only thing I don't like about the Samsung drives is that they only have a 1 year warranty. Seagate and WD, depending on the model of drive, has a 5 year warranty. I haven't tried the latest Seagate drives so can't tell you how they are as far as noise or anything. I think I'm gonna try Seagate next time. I've had quite a few problems with WD through the years.

The old WD Cavier SE 120gb I moved from one build to the next was the only WD drive to ever see problems when loaned out to a friend having trouble seeing XP go onto a Sata I type drive. He used that for over a year until XP was seeing a long list of problems. One look inside the case was why. :eek: !

The entire board saw nothing but a "blanket of dust" covering it up! The temps must have been super high there to see the old drive fail. Yet a 1yr. old Hitachi saw similar problems on a year old 939 build someone else was running simply by being a cheap throw on the market drive to stock shelves!

But that one WD drive was the only one to go in over 10yrs. of seeing WD drives go into a good number of systems. For the most they always seem to reliable and quiet here. I've never clicking sounds on any used to date.
 
On an old Packard 95 system the 1.2gb Seagate there quit awhile after being bought new for a friend's kid at the time. Fortunately I had just bought a WD 13gb model(Cavier SE) and could spare the old 1.4gb WD model hanging around and tossed that in back in 1999. You know that old Packard Bell is still up and running with 95 to this day. (SE = Special Edition)

Another friend collects old drives that still work to simply have onhand. Some of those are 50mb to 200mb WD models still good after all those years!

That means nothing, I still have all kinds of old harddrive around. Western Digital-Seagate-Maxtor-IBM some still work some dont. I even have some old crappy Quantum Bigfoot 5.25 drives that still work but that doesnt mean what drives are the best by any means.
 
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