Which CPU will be best for me?

To the O.P., you should wait for Intel's Conroe, it's producing awesome gaming benchmarks. Now is a really bad time to buy in computers.
 
monkeysims said:
very true, many dont know weither to buy now or wait on the new technology
Wait a month, conroe and Merom (august, mobile), from intel are just going to tear the place up.
 
i dont think AM2 is telling us who he truly is. he is supposedly 8 years old, and look at the system in his sig:

AMD FX-62 AM2 @ 3.4Ghz
4GB DDR2-800
2x Quad-7900GTX's SLI
X-Fi Elite Pro
4x 150GB 10K Raptors RAID-0

^now come on.... what 8 year old can afford that
 
monkeysims said:
i dont think AM2 is telling us who he truly is. he is supposedly 8 years old, and look at the system in his sig:

AMD FX-62 AM2 @ 3.4Ghz
4GB DDR2-800
2x Quad-7900GTX's SLI
X-Fi Elite Pro
4x 150GB 10K Raptors RAID-0

^now come on.... what 8 year old can afford that
What anyone can afford that? That's overkill to the point where even the richest would see it wise not to go that far. Besides, smart builders know the timings on DDR2-800 aren't worth the speed diff over 667.
 
i'd say get the 940 or the 3800+
if you're building it and you want to overclock, then definitely go with the 805. the thing is a beast when it comes to overclocking, and for a small amount of money.
 
[-0MEGA-] said:
It does, but even when overclocked to 4Ghz you dont have the advantage of a higher bus
No? PD 805 2.66GHz...133FSB. Taking that to 4GHz you have 200MHz FSB. All non extreme edition Pentium Ds run 200MHz FSB max.
 
i will mainly be using the computer for gaming and some uni work. So is there going to be a big differance between these? And will it really be noticable to me?
I would reccomend the X2 for it's most straight forward performance advantage although to be honest any of them will be sufficient and it is somewhat dependent on the budget

Go with the intel because it has a higher ghz rating
If you have the same video card and stuff ya
Actually, "no". Clock speed isnt everything. Have a look at CPU 101 for starters

very true, many dont know weither to buy now or wait on the new technology
I think "many" might be a bit too broad ;)

Wait a month, conroe and Merom (august, mobile), from intel are just going to tear the place up.
Last time i checked Conroe was a int monster. Not so loud in the fp department.

i dont think AM2 is telling us who he truly is. he is supposedly 8 years old, and look at the system in his sig:
Lets stay on topic
 
SC7 said:
What does that mean?
Int=Integer, fp=floating point.

Even though you say its not as big in the fp area, it still outperforms the AM2 Fx-62 in every since task except for the sciencemark memory bandwidth test.
 
[-0MEGA-] said:
Int=Integer, fp=floating point.

Even though you say its not as big in the fp area, it still outperforms the AM2 Fx-62 in every since task except for the sciencemark memory bandwidth test.
Honestly, I don't care about what numbers it puts out, I care about how it does the tasks themselves. There may be some theory behind the numbers, but to me, application performance is what matters.
 
yea... the numbers they put out were most likely false.
#1 they didn't show system specs in that review
#2 reviews aren't always reliable... we all know how hard it is to make a small chart that says one cpu perform at 150% compared to another right ;)
#3 conroe hasn't been released yet. wait til after its released and then start comparing it to other processors.
if it really performs even as good as an FX-60, then it's going to cost a pretty penny. lol
also, AMD is still using 90nm.... and people have even gotten them as high as 4ghz with vapochill

whatever happened to the falsely named "anti-hyperthreading" that was rumored? you know... lets two cores work on a single thread...
probably b.s. then right? lol
 
1. In the ones I saw, it was a 2.13 GHz Conroe with 2 MB L2 cache, all systems had 1 GB of their respective best RAMS, and a 7900GTX.
2. There are several different reviews on this topic out there.
3. The price scaling has been released, and several processors which are priced lower than the FX-60 outperformed it. It's AMDs own fault they're still at 90nm. I don't care what they can do, they need to do it (offer 65 nm parts)
4. Anti-hyperthreading is BS to begin with, it's the mentality "Oh, let's sacrafice real world performance for better benchmarking results."
Conroe has been reviewed at many different places and all of the results conclude it's superior. What's wrong with that? The chip is just apparently superior, I'm not going to say it is myself until I can fairly test it, but I can, based on all I've read, advise people to go for Conroe over the current AMD offerings.
 
fade2green514 said:
yea... the numbers they put out were most likely false.
#1 they didn't show system specs in that review
#2 reviews aren't always reliable... we all know how hard it is to make a small chart that says one cpu perform at 150% compared to another right ;)
#3 conroe hasn't been released yet. wait til after its released and then start comparing it to other processors.
if it really performs even as good as an FX-60, then it's going to cost a pretty penny. lol
also, AMD is still using 90nm.... and people have even gotten them as high as 4ghz with vapochill

whatever happened to the falsely named "anti-hyperthreading" that was rumored? you know... lets two cores work on a single thread...
probably b.s. then right? lol
I think they actually did show the system specs.

Well it's obviously better than an FX-60, but to find out how much, we will need to run some tests when they come out. And the Conroes are going to cost around $300-$500.


And a few overclockers got their 2.93Ghz Conroe's to 5Ghz, and it ran SuperPi 1M in 10.2s.
 
fade2green514 said:
yea... the numbers they put out were most likely false.
#1 they didn't show system specs in that review

http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=2713&p=1
Anandtech Review said:
Intel setup two identical systems: in one corner, an Athlon 64 FX-60 overclocked to 2.8GHz running on a DFI RD480 motherboard. And in the other corner, a Conroe running at 2.66GHz (1067MHz FSB) on an Intel 975X motherboard. The AMD system used 1GB of DDR400 running at 2-2-2/1T timings, while the Intel system used 1GB of DDR2-667 running at 4-4-4. Both systems had a pair of Radeon X1900 XTs running in CrossFire and as far as we could tell, the drivers and the rest of the system setup was identical.

#1 of your post debunked. System specifications were posted on that first preview of the Conroe.

Fade2Green514 said:
#2 reviews aren't always reliable... we all know how hard it is to make a small chart that says one cpu perform at 150% compared to another right ;)
You need to realize it's not only large websites which have the Conroes, but also individual overclockers, and all the results have the same connotation that when these processors are released to the general public, they will destroy anything that AMD has at the moment. #2 of your post debunked, yet again.

Fade2Green514 said:
#3 conroe hasn't been released yet. wait til after its released and then start comparing it to other processors. if it really performs even as good as an FX-60, then it's going to cost a pretty penny. lol
When Conroe finally does come out, it's not going to be any slower than what we have seen over the past month or two in the hands of many reviewers/individuals. The preliminary samples people have now are 90-95% of the final product which Conroe is going to be when it is released. The only thing Intel would do between this time period is to possibly optimize the architecture even more, although I doubt that, as the processors are most likely already being fabricated as we speak.

And it will not cost a pretty penny to beat an Athlon 64 FX-60, as evident by referring to the pricing charts.

1023_large_conroe_pricing.jpg


Fade2Green514 said:
also, AMD is still using 90nm.... and people have even gotten them as high as 4ghz with vapochill
Yeah, and the Conroe has already reached 5GHz.
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Fanboys never give up, he will respond. Only once did I ever defeat fanboys, Apple fanboys. I just sat there and wrote a whole long response to each comment, destroying OS X and many other apple things. But on topic, that is impressive, I'm glad to see Intel take the lead again.
 
whatever happened to the falsely named "anti-hyperthreading" that was rumored? you know... lets two cores work on a single thread...
probably b.s. then right? lol
Well anti-hyperthereading is a supposed AMD innovation (if it even exists I don't see it working at all, and even if it does work probably not well) so are you trying to slam your own product of choice?
Very nice clutch!

Do you have a response fade2green?
Thanks for the commentary, do you do colour commentary as well? :P
 
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