Which OS?

Calibretto

Calibretto

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I currently have XP Professional x86. Would it be worth it to switch to Vista Ultimate 64-bit? What are the advantages and disadvantages?
 
Dude, you haven't read all the threads on this issue? :eek:

You're regularly active, so that's why I ask....
 
mep916 said:
Dude, you haven't read all the threads on this issue? :eek:

You're regularly active, so that's why I ask....
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Well I've heard bad things about Vista, but I heard from a few people that said they have no problems with the 64-bit version of Vista Ultimate.
 
Calibretto said:
Well I've heard bad things about Vista, but I heard from a few people that said they have no problems with the 64-bit version of Vista Ultimate.
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I haven't had any major issues. Sure, if you've tried Vista and you like it, I don't see why not. The Windows Ultimate extras aren't much of a big deal, so if you want to save a few bucks, take a look at Home Premium.
 
oh right, that's cool. I'm still not sure if I'll switch. Some of my most important apps aren't compatible with Vista yet.
 
Vista x64 creates a cute little folder called Program Files (x86)
I haven't had any problems with any of my apps so far.
 
Vista has gotten much better, most of the problems before were due to bad drivers. Especially now with Vista SP1, things have gotten much better. I'd say go for it.
 
I looked up PeerGuardian 2 on Wikipedia, and there is a screenshot of it on Windows Vista, so it should be good.
 
Vista sucks, I mean I have a quad core processor and 4 gigs of RAM and it runs slow. Browsing the web on my old laptop its about the same speed.

The only reason I run Vista is for 64bit support and DX10. My system sits Idle using over 1gig of RAM.

I don't have any thing loaded on it, but the stock install of windows, all the updates. One of the core services crashes and relaunches itself constantly after looking through the system logs, or I guess event viewer in Windows.

The control panels are a freaking mess, and it takes me so much longer to configure anything in this OS.

My BIOS flash utility for my mobo doesn't run at all under Vista, so I can't flash my BIOS with an update unless I create a boot disk, which is annoying because I don't have a floppy drive, so I will have to go through the troubles of creating a bootable CD.

I am just really glad I never paid for Vista. Vista Ultimate was swag given to me by our MS rep. I would have felt a lot worse if I paid for it.

It is not as bad as Windows ME, at least not yet, but it is bloated and slow compared to what kind of hardware I am running.

It is hard to say if DX 10 is worth it or not, and the 64bit Memory addressing. I have yet to see anything significant that can prove it either way.

I do like some of the eye candy, and yes I do think the interface counts and there are some really neat interface improvements in vista, but then there is the new control panels, which suck so hard core they take away from the new interface.
 
tlarkin said:
Vista sucks, I mean I have a quad core processor and 4 gigs of RAM and it runs slow. Browsing the web on my old laptop its about the same speed.

The only reason I run Vista is for 64bit support and DX10. My system sits Idle using over 1gig of RAM.

I don't have any thing loaded on it, but the stock install of windows, all the updates. One of the core services crashes and relaunches itself constantly after looking through the system logs, or I guess event viewer in Windows.

The control panels are a freaking mess, and it takes me so much longer to configure anything in this OS.

My BIOS flash utility for my mobo doesn't run at all under Vista, so I can't flash my BIOS with an update unless I create a boot disk, which is annoying because I don't have a floppy drive, so I will have to go through the troubles of creating a bootable CD.

I am just really glad I never paid for Vista. Vista Ultimate was swag given to me by our MS rep. I would have felt a lot worse if I paid for it.

It is not as bad as Windows ME, at least not yet, but it is bloated and slow compared to what kind of hardware I am running.

It is hard to say if DX 10 is worth it or not, and the 64bit Memory addressing. I have yet to see anything significant that can prove it either way.

I do like some of the eye candy, and yes I do think the interface counts and there are some really neat interface improvements in vista, but then there is the new control panels, which suck so hard core they take away from the new interface.
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I'm not sure about your problem but my quad core and 2GBs of RAM run Vista just as fast as XP, hell, for me, Vista doesn't even use 1GB of RAM unless I start running something that chews memory (games, firefox with multiple tabs,etc...). The hardware accelerated GUI has fixed the old smearing effect that happens when things crashed in XP. Also, if a program crashes on Vista it is locked inside its own window and you can close it without any problems. Vista is a decent upgrade from XP provided you have the money. Vista may not perform any better but it certainly doesn't perform any worse than XP. The control panel was a mess in XP as well, just revert to the Classic View and its a ton better. As I sit here, with quite a few background programs and while my computer is defragging, I am using just under 1GB of RAM. Granted, I am using the 32-bit version of the OS but I doubt it should be much different in the 64-bit iteration. If a core service is crashing, it is probably not a fault of Windows itself but rather something done by you or a software you have installed.

Overall if you are perfectly happy with XP then there isn't a whole lot of reasons to switch aside from the updated user profile management system. I moved to Vista because I got it for cheap and I initially stayed with XP and dual-booted but after Vista SP1, I deleted my XP partition.
 
gamerman4 said:
I'm not sure about your problem but my quad core and 2GBs of RAM run Vista just as fast as XP, hell, for me, Vista doesn't even use 1GB of RAM unless I start running something that chews memory (games, firefox with multiple tabs,etc...). The hardware accelerated GUI has fixed the old smearing effect that happens when things crashed in XP. Also, if a program crashes on Vista it is locked inside its own window and you can close it without any problems. Vista is a decent upgrade from XP provided you have the money. Vista may not perform any better but it certainly doesn't perform any worse than XP. The control panel was a mess in XP as well, just revert to the Classic View and its a ton better. As I sit here, with quite a few background programs and while my computer is defragging, I am using just under 1GB of RAM. Granted, I am using the 32-bit version of the OS but I doubt it should be much different in the 64-bit iteration. If a core service is crashing, it is probably not a fault of Windows itself but rather something done by you or a software you have installed.

Overall if you are perfectly happy with XP then there isn't a whole lot of reasons to switch aside from the updated user profile management system. I moved to Vista because I got it for cheap and I initially stayed with XP and dual-booted but after Vista SP1, I deleted my XP partition.
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My problem is that out of the box Vista sucks. I have been slowly tweaking it here and there to get it to run how I like, but it isn't happening with out me digging through and and reconfiguring things, and uninstalling and getting rid of other things.

I have done nothing to Vista, just installed it and a couple of games and updated it to the newest version, cutting out all those lame ass optional updates, security and critical updates only.

Booting takes forever, updating takes 4 damn reboots. Vista, compared to every other OS that is out there right now is the worst hands down. The only thing it has going for it over Unix, Linux, and OS X is video games, otherwise there is not much you can do on Windows that you can't do with other OSes.

I will give Windows that there are some Applications by third party developers that are damn nice, and they may or may not make any other version for Mac or Linux, but that is not always a deal breaker. Since, there is typically an open source or another third party alternative.
 
tlarkin said:
My problem is that out of the box Vista sucks. I have been slowly tweaking it here and there to get it to run how I like, but it isn't happening with out me digging through and and reconfiguring things, and uninstalling and getting rid of other things.

I have done nothing to Vista, just installed it and a couple of games and updated it to the newest version, cutting out all those lame ass optional updates, security and critical updates only.

Booting takes forever, updating takes 4 damn reboots. Vista, compared to every other OS that is out there right now is the worst hands down. The only thing it has going for it over Unix, Linux, and OS X is video games, otherwise there is not much you can do on Windows that you can't do with other OSes.

I will give Windows that there are some Applications by third party developers that are damn nice, and they may or may not make any other version for Mac or Linux, but that is not always a deal breaker. Since, there is typically an open source or another third party alternative.
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The only tweak to my system is disabling UAC. I have my updates download when I'm not using it and then all I have to do is 1 restart. Booting doesn't take too long for me and even if it did, I leave my comp on nearly 24/7 so it doesn't matter. Also, I can switch your comment around and it would be just as true:
see, "there is not much you can do on [other OSes] that you can't do with [Windows]."
I could use any OS for what I do since everything (except maybe 2 things) that I do on Windows has an alternative that is on another OS, I use Windows because it is no worse than any other OS at what it does and I chose it based on my preference for playing games while doing other things. I could be nitpicky about any other OS just as well as you since they all have annoyances.
 
Calibretto said:
The only reason I would want Vista is for the 64-bit support because XP's 64-bit sucks.
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tut tut-thats why you sold it to me??

doesnt matter cos i sold it on without even using it lol!

im running home premium 64bit and ive never looked back, the xp64bit was for my girlfriends pc
 
Vista boot takes ages!? Somethings up with your PC, dude.

Honestly, people bitching about Vista piss' me off no end... if you don't like it, don't use it. It's that simple.
 
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